http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Today's EEN cover + p5 spread en Mon, 18 May 2026 18:08:01 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92097 Sun, 25 Nov 2012 13:40:50 +0000 Instography 92097@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Looks awful. 20mph doesn't sound right. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92096 Sun, 25 Nov 2012 13:28:26 +0000 amir 92096@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There are some big potholes appearing at the moment. Be careful out there.</p> <p>I am always careful coming down Gilmerton Road. The surface is a nightmare. There is a cycle lane painted but I rarely venture into it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92094 Sun, 25 Nov 2012 13:03:13 +0000 Cyclingmollie 92094@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My wife's just back from a trip to Fort Kinnaird where she hit a pot-hole so large that she's now off to the garage to have the car checked. Another driver had hit the same hole and was out with his spare tyre. She has promised to inform Clarence. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92091 Sun, 25 Nov 2012 12:29:39 +0000 Bigjack 92091@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Although nobody can deny that Edinburgh's road surfaces are generally the most appalling to be found just about anywhere in the developed world, one of the worst is on the way down Ardmillan from "The Diggers".I'm glad I don't have to take that road very often but when I do I always breath a big sigh of relief when I get sfely to the bottom. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92087 Sun, 25 Nov 2012 11:48:33 +0000 chdot 92087@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>You do eventually learn, in my case, from experience, that there's a missing drain grate concealed in some puddles. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92086 Sun, 25 Nov 2012 11:36:56 +0000 Cyclingmollie 92086@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>You do eventually learn, in my case, from experience, that there's a pothole concealed in every puddle. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92080 Sun, 25 Nov 2012 00:45:58 +0000 kaputnik 92080@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The car-centric convention of our roads is that cyclists must only be tolerated in the gutter. This is officially endorsed when councils insist on painting 1m-wide lanes in the gutter, which is generally where you find drain covers, manhole covers, the debris swept into the gutter off the road, rubbish dropped from the pavement, and where buses seem to do the most damage.</p> <p>It's not even as simple as just cycling a few metres out from the pavement - you literally have to weave around all over the place to pick a route down some roads. Even the most experienced and careful cyclists can and do come a cropper eventually. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92078 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 22:53:14 +0000 recombodna 92078@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Je nog steeds road rage in Nederland..... <a href="http://www.at5.nl/artikelen/90938/boze-fietser-smijt-fiets-door-ruit" rel="nofollow">http://www.at5.nl/artikelen/90938/boze-fietser-smijt-fiets-door-ruit</a> Roughly translated the cyclist was almost hit by a car that entered the cycle path so he threw his bike through the back window of the car...... He was arrested and the traffic was temporarily directed by zwaarte piet. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92074 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 21:02:30 +0000 crowriver 92074@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>chuck a good job and learn Dutch</em></p> <p>Believe me, I've considered it! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92073 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 21:00:52 +0000 cc 92073@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It's a simple choice - either be optimistic about Scotland or chuck a good job and learn Dutch </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92072 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 20:50:06 +0000 crowriver 92072@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>There speaks an fantasist.</em></p> <p>FTFY :-( </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92070 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:43:57 +0000 chdot 92070@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Give us a year or two and they'll be spending that kind of money on cycling. They'll have to; it makes too much financial sense not to."</p> <p>There speaks an optimist. </p> <p>I HOPE you're right! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92069 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:42:05 +0000 chdot 92069@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Actually, while there are some daft comments, for once most are sympathetic."</p> <p>Makes a nice change. </p> <p>Suppose it makes it easier to 'blame the Council". </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92068 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:37:31 +0000 wee folding bike 92068@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I had to explain that to my second years yesterday. They assumed I'd be cycling in the gutter where all the water was and expected I'd have got wet.</p> <p>EDIT</p> <p>I notice it was also on a bridge. I cross the A8/M8 every morning and there is more ice on that bridge than the other bits of road. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92067 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:33:09 +0000 Kirst 92067@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>According to some of the commenter, she shouldn't be cycling over sunken drains or through puddles, but neither should she move out to avoid them. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92064 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:24:53 +0000 wee folding bike 92064@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It says she only got the bike in the summer so it's possible that she doesn't have much experience of cycling in the dark and winter.</p> <p>if she hit a stank then she might have been too close to the kerb.</p> <p>I'd avoid stank lids when they are wet anyway because they can be more slippery than tarmac. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92063 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:13:23 +0000 cc 92063@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> <em>Well yes, except of course the council would never have got 500 million from the Scottish government/parilament for cycle lanes. Not 'proper' transport.</em><br /> "</p> <p>Give us a year or two and they'll be spending that kind of money on cycling. They'll have to; it makes too much financial sense not to. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92062 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 18:56:31 +0000 SRD 92062@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>yeah, i didn't want to jinx it, but at the point when i posted the link, the comments all looked okay. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92061 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 18:51:40 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 92061@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Actually, while there <em>are</em> some daft comments, for once most are sympathetic. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92060 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 18:33:46 +0000 chdot 92060@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My eyes strayed down to the comments. Fortunately the first one said -</p> <p>"This comment was left by a user who has been blocked by our staff."</p> <p>Reminded me not to go any further... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92058 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 17:21:18 +0000 neddie 92058@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"CYCLING IS REALLY BLOODY DANGEROUS, LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO HER!"</p> <p>It's a double edged sword. You have to emphasize the roads are in a dangerous condition to get something done about it. The penalty is the non-cycling public perceive cycling to be too dangerous to contemplate. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92052 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 16:19:56 +0000 crowriver 92052@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I saw the EEN cover in Scotmid Porty branch this morning. It's a valid safety concern, and a terrible thing to happen to anyone. However I'm worried that the way it's splashed on the front page like that is yet more sensationalist scare mongering: "CYCLING IS REALLY BLOODY DANGEROUS, LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO HER!" Imagine a driver, thinking about possibly cycling to work, that would put them right off.</p> <p><em>Imagine how much better the city would be now if the tram cash had been spent on redesigning streets along Dutch "sustainable safety" lines, or even on cheap Chicago/New York/Seville style segregated lanes on major roads. Far better value for money.</em></p> <p>Well yes, except of course the council would never have got 500 million from the Scottish government/parilament for cycle lanes. Not 'proper' transport. Maybe they would have got 500 thousand... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92048 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 16:08:28 +0000 kaputnik 92048@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That's terrible. And can happen to anyone, and there's precious little you can do about it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92046 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:41:37 +0000 cc 92046@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yikes :-(</p> <p>"<br /> <em>I don’t know why they have done the trams, we don’t need them. They should have made a bike network and then people would be much healthier and happier.</em><br /> "</p> <p>I used to support the trams myself but I agree with this wholeheartedly. Imagine how much better the city would be now if the tram cash had been spent on redesigning streets along Dutch "sustainable safety" lines, or even on cheap Chicago/New York/Seville style segregated lanes on major roads. Far better value for money.</p> <p>IIRC the inspiration for the trams was to help reduce the illegal levels of poison gas fumes from motor traffic. Improving the cycling infrastructure would have done so much more for that problem, too.</p> <p>(Mind you, fair's fair, other cities have managed to build tram lines for one twentieth the cost of ours.) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92043 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:21:42 +0000 SRD 92043@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Here's the <a href="http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/transport/the-face-of-cycling-on-edinburgh-s-broken-roads-1-2657996">link to the on-line version.</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92037 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:02:57 +0000 Smudge 92037@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ouch indeed :-(<br /> Hope she has a full recovery soon.<br /> Funnily enough I was thinking the other day that the potholes/poor repairs on the Lanark Road between Currie and Gillespie Crossroads are getting bad enough to be dangerous/damaging, and that's on a heavy duty tourer with mountainbike wheels :-/</p> <p>A long long way to go before we are any sort of safe and pleasant cycling city, there are moves in the right direction, but mean and inadequate in the main. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92033 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 12:08:54 +0000 Min 92033@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ouch. :-( </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8984#post-92030 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 12:00:59 +0000 SRD 92030@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://twitter.com/SRDEdinburgh/status/272282322282348545/photo/1">Check it out</a>. not on-line yet. </p>