http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Two pedestrians knocked down in Edinburgh yesterday en Fri, 22 May 2026 00:27:32 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9066#post-94688 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:21:00 +0000 recombodna 94688@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"It staggers me that anyone could do something like this and just drive off." Yeah it beggars belief in the case of this video the woman runs over an old man and keeps on trucking........ with folk like this on the road jeez it makes yer blood run cold! <a href="http://youtu.be/HtKUZ_SNK60" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/HtKUZ_SNK60</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9066#post-94687 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:20:00 +0000 Min 94687@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Of course not. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9066#post-94684 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:13:36 +0000 kaputnik 94684@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Min was there a similar email around work reminding drivers not to drive over pedestrians? (Rhetorical question) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9066#post-94665 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:39:15 +0000 minus six 94665@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>We've reached the point where any pedestrian or cyclist losing their life at the hands of a <em>sober</em> motorist, is just regarded as death by misadventure. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9066#post-94658 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:24:30 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 94658@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Min, that's quite frankly ridiculous! Justified to get angry about it... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9066#post-94652 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:00:47 +0000 Min 94652@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I got an email round at work victim blaming over this. Pedestrians were admonished to walk right round the inside of the building rather than venture outside and if they did insist on such a foolish thing they were to use the supposed "safe" crossing points only. Nowhere were drivers advised to drive carefully in a place which by definition is likely to contain a lot of old or sick people. I didn't post about it at the time as it made me too angry and in fact it still does. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9066#post-94651 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:54:23 +0000 mgj 94651@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>On the 81 year old killed at the Western, my mum was at the funeral on Friday. This was not a doddery old woman, but a sprightly one, killed by a private hire car doing an u-turn. No doubt he'll get no fine or points as that would affect his livelihood. If sentencing of those who damage artworks is designed to stop others doing so, traffic-related crime should do so as well. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9066#post-94648 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:40:51 +0000 DaveC 94648@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>These are one of the reasons I try to stay off roads as much as possible. The only busy roads I commute on are the main road throgh Inverkeithing and up Bellevue occationally as I have tried S^c^o^t^l^a^n^d S^t^r^e^e^t and Dublin Street. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9066#post-94646 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:27:31 +0000 SRD 94646@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have seen so many cars whizz around those corners - including the blind one at the top of Craighouse, that I am just surprising there aren't more pedestrians hit there. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9066#post-94644 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:19:09 +0000 kaputnik 94644@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-20756015">Woman, 85, knocked down in hit-and-run in Morningside Grove</a>.</p> <p>Had just got off a 23 bus. I hope the buses cameras caught the numberplate.</p> <p>It staggers me that anyone could do something like this and just drive off. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9066#post-93558 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:42:13 +0000 steveo 93558@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Looks like one of those big heavy wheels rolled right up the bonnet. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9066#post-93556 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:38:45 +0000 Arellcat 93556@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Could a vehicle of literally two to four horsepower cause that much metalwork damage? I think not. Even the best stagecoaches, with changes of horses every eight miles, averaged 8mph (albeit on the roads of the day). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9066#post-93554 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:32:14 +0000 AKen 93554@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>I also seriously doubt that the carriage was the one doing the colliding.</em> </p> <p>If it was, it certainly reversed into that car at a hell of a lick. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9066#post-93553 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:31:25 +0000 Arellcat 93553@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>PS, probably because society now has the entrenched view that driving refers only to <strike>motor vehicles</strike> newfangled horseless carriages, and is happily ignorant that both the Offences Against the Person Act 1861 and the Town Police Clauses Act 1847 naturally refer to the driving of horses, cattle and carriages. A prospective amendment to the Road Safety Act 2006 effectively equated 'driving' with that of mechanically propelled vehicles.</p> <p>And for those concerned about the horses: "A local vet attended the collision and treated the horses for minor injuries." </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9066#post-93551 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:20:54 +0000 PS 93551@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>From Min's link: </p> <p>"It was being "driven" by Simon Millar, who had his daughter Hannah on board with him, when it collided with a blue/grey Honda CRV."</p> <p>Why on earth does ""driven"" have the inverted commas around it? It's a perfectly accurate use of the word. [/pedantry]</p> <p>I also seriously doubt that the carriage was the one doing the colliding. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9066#post-93523 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 14:04:42 +0000 slowcoach 93523@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Min, cars don't need to be going fast to kill people. Pedestrians have been killed by vehicles which were reversing or moving slowly forward to pull out of a side street or a parking place and hitting people that the drivers hadn't noticed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9066#post-93521 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 14:01:30 +0000 le_soigneur 93521@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>How is it possible to smash your car into the back of a horse-drawn carriage at 2pm and not be driving recklessly?<br /> <img src="http://nfs.stvfiles.com/imagebase/170/623x349/170911-a-45-year-old-man-seriously-injured-after-a-crash-between-a-car-and-a-horse-drawn-carriage-carrying-.jpg"></p> <p><a href="http://news.stv.tv/scotland/203709-man-seriously-injured-in-horse-drawn-carriage-wedding-day-crash/" rel="nofollow">http://news.stv.tv/scotland/203709-man-seriously-injured-in-horse-drawn-carriage-wedding-day-crash/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9066#post-93514 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 13:38:04 +0000 Min 93514@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Very sad.</p> <p>Porterfield Road is the road actually in the hospital. It is difficult to work out how someone could have been killed there as people should be driving very slowly round there.</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/latest-news/oap-dies-after-being-knocked-down-near-hospital-1-2675232">EEN version is here.</a> It gives a list of all the people who have been killed or injured in Edinburgh and the Lothians in the last few months.</p> <p><em>Latest figures, released by Lothian and Borders Police, showed that a total of nine adults and nine children were killed on the roads in the Lothians between April and September.</p> <p>During the same period 165 adults sustained serious injuries, 97 of them in Edinburgh.</p> <p>Two youngsters were also badly hurt in East Lothian and Midlothian and five in West Lothian.</p> <p>Another 1048 adults suffered minor injuries over the period.</p> <p>Of these, 590 of the injuries occurred in the Capital.</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9066#post-93461 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 10:34:21 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 93461@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-20594960">A 60 year old hit by a bus on Lothian Road (nasty looking picture of the smashed windscreen)</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-20605448">81 year old killed outside the Western General (the driver is 'helping police with their enquiries')</a></p> <p>No other info, so can't really comment. Certainly where the first one happened pedestrians are often trying to get across against the red man, and there are traffic streams everywhere and I've seen a few hairy close passes there. At the same time I've seen a bus hit a car there - seemed to be caused by neither wanting to cede priority, but in that situation the bus is always going to win! </p>