http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Bike theft taken seriously en Sun, 17 May 2026 22:39:35 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-320816 Tue, 14 Jan 2020 15:14:20 +0000 I were right about that saddle 320816@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If I understand correctly most acquisitive theft is to fund purchase of controlled drugs. If we just prescribed them we'd all be a lot better off, apart from the psycho drug lords. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-320815 Tue, 14 Jan 2020 15:03:16 +0000 Rosie 320815@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Did they say the actual number of bikes? Depending on the value, £40,000 could be 40 bikes, or 30, or 50. Where could he store them?</p> <p>I posted this on Facebook and draconian punishments, including corporal, are being called for. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-320813 Tue, 14 Jan 2020 14:51:58 +0000 neddie 320813@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>TBH, I think kids like this need help, not jail time.</p> <p>The people that need jail time are the ones using motor vehicles as threats and weapons. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-320812 Tue, 14 Jan 2020 14:49:00 +0000 I were right about that saddle 320812@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>The sheer total value should mean he receives significant prison time.</em></p> <p>You can burn a whole bike shop down live on video and get no prison time. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-320811 Tue, 14 Jan 2020 14:22:09 +0000 Snowy 320811@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The sheer total value should mean he receives significant prison time.</p> <p>But of course, 'only bikes'... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-320775 Tue, 14 Jan 2020 06:19:05 +0000 edinburgh87 320775@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Should get 5-10 years no parole but alas I suspect the outcome will be nowhere near </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-320737 Mon, 13 Jan 2020 17:34:44 +0000 Frenchy 320737@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"MAN ARRESTED FOR THEFT OF HIGH VALUE PEDAL BIKES</p> <p>At the beginning of December 2019, high valued bikes totalling almost £40,000 were stolen from garages, sheds and bike storage units across Edinburgh.</p> <p>Officers from the south west of Edinburgh carried out enquiries resulting in all but two of the bikes being traced and returned to their owners.</p> <p>On 7th January 2020, a 19 year old man was traced, arrested and charged with multiple acquisitive offences. He was held in custody to appear at Edinburgh Sheriff Court." </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-296676 Thu, 29 Nov 2018 14:39:37 +0000 I were right about that saddle 296676@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Given the level of social disorder generated by Alcohol...why do you not think that there would be an increase in such behaviour if other drugs were added to the mix?</em></p> <p>That would be a matter of experience. I'd expect a more grown-up society to behave in more grown-up ways. My taxi driver mate says the folk on 'mephedrone' are the most dangerous. They simply have no way of knowing what they've taken. Regulated supply lets people know drug identities and doses in advance.</p> <p>The present system hands huge amounts of money to the very worst people in society, wrecks the most vulnerable and inconveniences the rest. I can't see any reason not to try another approach, especially one known to work elsewhere. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-296667 Thu, 29 Nov 2018 13:35:04 +0000 Frenchy 296667@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>why do you not think that there would be an increase in such behaviour if other drugs were added to the mix? </em></p> <p>It's almost certainly not universal, but I think most places which have decriminalised or legalised drug use have actually seen rates of drug use go down, probably because it becomes far easier for addicts to get help and treatment. This suggests that adding other drugs to the mix is unlikely to cause major problems.</p> <p>Article on Portugal's experience here: <a href="https://mic.com/articles/110344/14-years-after-portugal-decriminalized-all-drugs-here-s-what-s-happening" rel="nofollow">https://mic.com/articles/110344/14-years-after-portugal-decriminalized-all-drugs-here-s-what-s-happening</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-296664 Thu, 29 Nov 2018 13:21:04 +0000 Trixie 296664@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The apparently willy-nilly nature with which benzos and opiates are prescribed creates apparently acceptable addicts whose addiction is then supported and funded yet hee-haw is done for 'street' addicts. It's messed up. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-296662 Thu, 29 Nov 2018 13:04:34 +0000 dessert rat 296662@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've never seen someone stoned looking a fight. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-296661 Thu, 29 Nov 2018 13:02:52 +0000 acsimpson 296661@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Given the level of social disorder generated by Alcohol (a legal mind altering drug) why do you not think that there would be an increase in such behaviour if other drugs were added to the mix? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-296652 Thu, 29 Nov 2018 11:56:20 +0000 unhurt 296652@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>And re: <em> about 5% of the population became addicted</em> it seems pretty clear that the underlying causes of addiction aren't "weakness" or "lack of moral character" or "inherent addictiveness of substance X" but trauma, pain, suffering - we should be treating those, and eliminating their causes where possible, not criminalizing addicts. But drug policy is driven by tabloid headlines, so. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-296650 Thu, 29 Nov 2018 11:52:52 +0000 I were right about that saddle 296650@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@chdot</p> <p>Pre-'71 opiates were prescribed to registered addicts. Seems like a reasonable practice. When the UK <em>actively promoted</em> opium consumption in China about 5% of the population became addicted. </p> <p>The cost of production of most common drugs is absolutely minimal. The ingredients are common and the chemistry straightforward. The high retail price is because psychopathic gangsters operate local monopolies. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-296645 Thu, 29 Nov 2018 11:16:16 +0000 chdot 296645@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A lot would change if drug laws were altered significantly.</p> <p>Presumably there is data on likely cost of key drugs comparing ‘street price’ and shop price.</p> <p>Does the tab get picked up by the NHS once individuals get addicted?? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-296643 Thu, 29 Nov 2018 11:07:13 +0000 I were right about that saddle 296643@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Proposition: Acquisitive crime would plummet if the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 were repealed, all drugs legalised and regulated and their consumption only treated as a public matter if it leads to disorder or ill-health.</p> <p>Imagine a world where pure drugs are sold to over-18s from pharmacies. </p> <p>It would be a massive blow to organised criminals and to the paramilitary policing needed to tackle them. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-296640 Thu, 29 Nov 2018 10:53:24 +0000 chdot 296640@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/man-charged-over-62-bike-thefts-in-edinburgh-1-4836376" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/man-charged-over-62-bike-thefts-in-edinburgh-1-4836376</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-8201 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:07:17 +0000 SRD 8201@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Some of those around the uni would be a very good idea! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-8200 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:02:49 +0000 chdot 8200@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><center> <img src="http://www.lcc.org.uk/images//tagging_372.jpg"></center></p> <p>"During June LCC is tagging thousands of bikes all over Greater London to alert cyclists to the dangers of bike theft." </p> <p><a href="http://www.lcc.org.uk/index.asp?PageID=1868" rel="nofollow">http://www.lcc.org.uk/index.asp?PageID=1868</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-8137 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 18:41:24 +0000 Kim 8137@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPDHPpnXPv8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPDHPpnXPv8</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-8108 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 10:30:38 +0000 spytfyre 8108@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Dave (yes I saw those pics on google images too) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-8104 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:57:36 +0000 Kim 8104@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think you will find the person stupid enough to have his bike nicked from a bollard is now running the country! Worrying isn't it... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-8102 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:24:31 +0000 Dave 8102@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Indeed. Refreshing when so many say that the problem with...</p> <p><img src="http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05_02/borisbikeUPPA0605_468x361.jpg"></p> <p>... Boris Johnson is that he just doesn't...</p> <p><img src="http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/boris-bike_415x275.jpg"></p> <p>... take the lethal dangers of cycling in Britain ...</p> <p><img src="http://alcopop.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/boris-johnson-bike_667500n.jpg"></p> <p>... seriously enough!</p> <p>I'm assuming it wasn't him who had his bike nicked from a bollard (!!) then? Or was it, and he's too embarrassed not to do anything about it! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-8101 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 15:12:48 +0000 spytfyre 8101@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Maybe it is cos Boris is pro bike<br /> <img src="http://thebikejoint.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/boris-bicycle.jpg"><br /> <strike><u>He's even wearing a helmet</u></strike> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-8100 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 15:03:55 +0000 Kim 8100@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ah, but this is Edinburgh. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=907#post-8099 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 13:54:01 +0000 chdot 8099@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>In London. </p> <p>"<br /> • Tackling organised cycle theft through proactive investigations and operations;<br /> • Disrupting the trade of stolen second-hand bikes and bicycle parts through working with online websites such as eBay, and running undercover operations and high visibility patrols in hot spot areas;<br /> "</p> <p>etc. </p> <p><a href="http://www.bikebiz.com/news/32261/London-Police-lead-bike-crime-crackdown" rel="nofollow">http://www.bikebiz.com/news/32261/London-Police-lead-bike-crime-crackdown</a> </p>