CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "Cycling is almost five times safer than driving for men under 21" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "Cycling is almost five times safer than driving for men under 21" en Mon, 01 Jun 2026 02:50:47 +0000 Uberuce on ""Cycling is almost five times safer than driving for men under 21"" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9077#post-93684 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:57:42 +0000 Uberuce 93684@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Instography: I'd sorta-kinda- divided the number of people young drivermen kill by the number people young cyclomen kill. Neither incuding themselves.</p> <p>It wasn't a very precise calculation because I don't know what either of those numbers are, just a hazy notion that the cyclist one is less than one a year for the UK. </p> Instography on ""Cycling is almost five times safer than driving for men under 21"" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9077#post-93677 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:31:08 +0000 Instography 93677@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>No, young men tend, on the whole, to only kill themselves and their passenger friends in single car collisions involving leaving the road and colliding with a wall or a tree. There's an occasional head-on.</p> <p>The perennial problem for young men is the lure of peer- and girl-impressing, sensation seeking so the likelihood is that if they weren't driving they'd find some other way to fulfil that need. The implication that if they switched from a car to a bicycle they'd be five times less likely to die is, I think, not true. </p> Uberuce on ""Cycling is almost five times safer than driving for men under 21"" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9077#post-93676 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:21:42 +0000 Uberuce 93676@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yep, really ought to read "Men under 21 are X times more dangerous when driving than cycling" as the headline, and discuss X in the fine print.</p> <p>X with respect to themselves is apparently 5, but with respect to everyone else is presumably somewhere in the hundreds? Thousands? </p> holisticglint on ""Cycling is almost five times safer than driving for men under 21"" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9077#post-93652 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 11:21:31 +0000 holisticglint 93652@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think the key point is that cycling is safer for _everyone else_ than driving for men under 21. </p> earthowned on ""Cycling is almost five times safer than driving for men under 21"" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9077#post-93638 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 10:40:28 +0000 earthowned 93638@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>But surely the point is that there is a huge difference between crashing a bike at 15mph and a car at 70mph. </p> Instography on ""Cycling is almost five times safer than driving for men under 21"" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9077#post-93633 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 10:30:06 +0000 Instography 93633@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What they mean is, "Men under 21 drive badly". Who knew? What makes anyone think they'd cycle any better? </p> chdot on ""Cycling is almost five times safer than driving for men under 21"" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9077#post-93627 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 09:55:41 +0000 chdot 93627@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/cyclesafety/article3621669.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/cyclesafety/article3621669.ece</a> </p>