http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "11 year gap in life expectancy between Edinburgh’s rich and poor" en Fri, 22 May 2026 00:27:33 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9113#post-94460 Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:40:05 +0000 chdot 94460@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"What should be news is why so many people are still in poverty."</p> <p>"<br /> For as the maps reveal, this is not, except in the most superficial sense, a “health care” problem.</p> <p>It is, rather, a slow-motion human disaster, driven by economic and historic factors far beyond the reach of any health system</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/opinion/comment/joyce-mcmillan-health-problem-rooted-in-lost-world-1-2691211" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/opinion/comment/joyce-mcmillan-health-problem-rooted-in-lost-world-1-2691211</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9113#post-94459 Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:37:03 +0000 Kirst 94459@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The Black Report showed the links between poverty and ill-health very clearly decades ago. It's not news. What <em>should</em> be news is why so many people are still in poverty. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9113#post-94458 Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:35:44 +0000 chdot 94458@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"concluding that promoting cycling is a lost cause (without major change in infrastructure)"</p> <p>I don't <em>entirely</em> agree with that - well I would say that, I've been involved in various attempts. </p> <p>I certainly agree that some/many of the the more formal/big campaigns are unlikely to be 'cost effective'. </p> <p>I think various initiatives involving schools have worked, BUT if there is not decent 'safe' infrastructure available it certainly reduces the opportunity (and parental willingness) to try any new-found enthusiasm. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9113#post-94457 Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:11:02 +0000 wee folding bike 94457@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The infrastructure for eating vegetables is in place but everyday when I go through Coatbridge I'm convinced that many people are not taking advantage of it.</p> <p>A similar longevity situation obtains in the west. Men in Shettleston aren't expected to pick up their pension. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9113#post-94456 Fri, 14 Dec 2012 01:41:22 +0000 kaputnik 94456@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>We were reading the Scotsman paper version article at work - the way it was presented there was that there was an 11 year gap between richer/poorer areas across Scotland as a whole, not just restricted to Edinburgh.</p> <p>It's amazing that you can have an elephant in the room like our appalling national health and wellbeing record and yet active transport is paid such lipservice. </p> <p>Kind of helps inform any voting intentions I have. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9113#post-94455 Fri, 14 Dec 2012 01:30:23 +0000 Instography 94455@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>As the process was primarily about "transport" the latter won.</em></p> <p>Who'd have thought that might happen? Although to be honest, I was reviewing all the Scottish data on cycling today and concluding that promoting cycling is a lost cause (without major change in infrastructure). If commerce and politics allow I'll post it some time. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9113#post-94399 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:32:30 +0000 chdot 94399@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://m.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/latest-news/11-year-gap-in-life-expectancy-between-edinburgh-s-rich-and-poor-1-2689298" rel="nofollow">http://m.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/latest-news/11-year-gap-in-life-expectancy-between-edinburgh-s-rich-and-poor-1-2689298</a></p> <p>Obviously not just about diet/exercise (or bicycles). </p> <p>As part of the discussions before the ATAP was formalised, there was discussion about the merits of improving cycle paths in areas with low cycling rates or high (eg mostly central Edinburgh). </p> <p>As the process was primarily about "transport" the latter won. </p>