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CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street en Fri, 22 May 2026 00:25:06 +0000 crowriver on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94706 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:17:04 +0000 crowriver 94706@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I take it the 35 bus will be re-routed then, as it currently traverses Chambers St. If they do turn it into a cul-de-sac, I hope there'll be a bollarded cut-through for cyclists. Never mind carting washing machines around strapped to the roof rack of your Smart car, what about fridges? PS on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94695 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:01:45 +0000 PS 94695@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ This ->"The museum is one of the finest Victorian buildings in Britain, but it’s hemmed in by parking and the street is a cut-through for drivers." makes me think the plans are to close off Chambers Street, which is nice. TBH, I don't see that as an obstacle to normal cycle traffic - the only time I wouldn't cycle up the Royal Mile is at the height of the Fringe. Otherwise it's fine. "But fears have been raised for drivers after it emerged dozens of parking spaces will be axed under the plans..." Oooooh! Scary! I'd love to see some the return of giant chess sets - it would give the regular attendees at the Sheriff Court something to do while waiting for their appointments. steveo on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94686 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:16:50 +0000 steveo 94686@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Why would anyone want to join the QBC? You might need to buy a christmas tree... :D Kirst on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94685 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:15:48 +0000 Kirst 94685@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ The street is remaining open, not to be closed off completely like the Royal Mile. Nicolson Square would probably be a better route to join the QBC. If you've already got to Chambers Street and you want to get to the QBC then heading down to Princes STreet is an almighty detour. Why would anyone want to join the QBC? (Little bit of satire there, ladies and gentlespoons). Wilmington's Cow on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94679 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:02:44 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 94679@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "But it does make sense to allow some cars into pedestrianised areas" Indeed. Of course the plans are NOT to pedestrianise the street. Only to take away some spaces, so access for those with limited mobility will remain. I have a feeling the IAM's view of 'shared space' is a little more skewed towards the car than the pedestrian. Never said that cars should be completely banned, I was responding to the IAM call for 'shared space'. Now if he'd said 'pedestrian area, but maintaining access for those with disabled badges' I'd not have picked up on it. Baldcyclist on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94675 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:57:32 +0000 Baldcyclist 94675@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "Do you think that's what the IAM man meant?" Absolutely not. But it does make sense to allow some cars into pedestrianised areas. cb on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94674 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:57:14 +0000 cb 94674@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I guess this is part of the <a href="http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/207/planning-policies/1059/area_development_frameworks/2">Southern Arc</a> proposal, mentioned on here before. Wilmington's Cow on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94673 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:55:46 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 94673@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "To provide accessible parking, that makes perfect sense. All for pedestrianising, but we do need to cater for those who really DO need their cars." Do you think that's what the IAM man meant? SRD on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94672 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:54:53 +0000 SRD 94672@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Always seems to be lots of empty car spaces whenever i'm there looking for bike parking - I can think of three times since June, including a Saturday morning. Lots of room for cars. Baldcyclist on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94671 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:52:39 +0000 Baldcyclist 94671@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ " Right. So pedestrianise it, then allow cars to drive on it and park. That makes... erm... sense. " To provide accessible parking, that makes perfect sense. All for pedestrianising, but we do need to cater for those who really DO need their cars. steveo on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94670 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:47:40 +0000 steveo 94670@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ For washing machines think massive tellies from Richer Sounds. Thats true, the only time I've ever tried to park on Chambers St was buying my telly. Even a reasonably moderate size tv is a bear to get on a bus given how delicate LCD's are. Although I doubt this will make the slightest bit of difference, the parking there is always busy from first thing so removing spaces at the top isn't going to effect much down the bottom its not like the spaces down the Bridges end are ever empty. cc on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94668 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:43:02 +0000 cc 94668@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ For washing machines think massive tellies from Richer Sounds. I can just see Chambers St as a pedestrian & cycle place, with maybe sculpture, trees, fountains, giant chess sets & cycle parking scattered here and there. It'd still be a bit dark and sunless though - they could do with progressing that plan to remove the Potterrow flyover road and demolish the student centre, then they could have a nice [intermittently] sunny space out the back. But less car parking spaces is a start. It's a move in the right direction at least. Wilmington's Cow on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94667 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:42:43 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 94667@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "Where will the Tattoo coaches park?" LOADS of available space. Stick them on Potterow and put it down to one-lane in each direction. Or do the same on the Bridges. They already do on George IV Bridge during the Tattoo, so it's not unheard of. "And will they do any impact assessment on cyclists of the insertion of a big kink in the road?" Doubtful, but we/SPOKES/anyone could ask. I doubt it would make it worse than at the moment with narrow sections where you can feel the cars behind you. Anyway, the 'kink' was only my interpretation - might not be the case. "Is this 'perforamnce space' in addition to the appropriation of the Royal Mile for street artists, or instead of? If it is in addition then cycle traffic from North Edinburgh will have to tangle with the tramlines on Princes Street and then go up Market Street in order to get to the QBC/MMW, or go along George Street to access the Mound, at least during the festival." Well, again only my interpretation, the performance area is on the newly extended pavement, so will affect cyclists in no way whatsoever. The street is remaining open, not to be closed off completely like the Royal Mile. Nicolson Square would probably be a better route to join the QBC. If you've already got to Chambers Street and you want to get to the QBC then heading down to Princes STreet is an almighty detour. "They have seen the weather in Edinburgh, havent they? And they do know that the Museum is only really busy when it is wet or windy." Not my experience, but YMMV. And if you make the whole thing more attractive then more people will come even in the good weather no? mgj on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94664 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:35:42 +0000 mgj 94664@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Where will the Tattoo coaches park? And will they do any impact assessment on cyclists of the insertion of a big kink in the road? Is this 'perforamnce space' in addition to the appropriation of the Royal Mile for street artists, or instead of? If it is in addition then cycle traffic from North Edinburgh will have to tangle with the tramlines on Princes Street and then go up Market Street in order to get to the QBC/MMW, or go along George Street to access the Mound, at least during the festival. They have seen the weather in Edinburgh, havent they? And they do know that the Museum is only really busy when it is wet or windy. Wilmington's Cow on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94663 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:33:03 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 94663@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Got to love some of the comments... ""breathe new life" into the area and provide a stage for outdoor theatre and music". Where do these people get these ideas ?." Well the Grassmarket springs to mind. Min on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94662 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:31:10 +0000 Min 94662@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Kirst, if this anti-car nonsense is allowed to go ahead, no-one will ever be allowed to buy a washing machine ever again. I tihnk it's just extending the pavement out in front of the museum, meaning they'll have to take away the spaces in the middle of the road there. The road will just be given a kink. Oh okay. Cars roaring past a few feet away then as normal. Still, it appears to be a step in the right direction. Wilmington's Cow on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94661 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:28:02 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 94661@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Also from the IAM "Maybe they should be looking along the lines of creating a shared space, rather than clearing it of parking completely." Right. So pedestrianise it, then allow cars to drive on it and park. That makes... erm... sense. But yes, washing machines, I'd forgotten about washing machines. SRD on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94660 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:27:58 +0000 SRD 94660@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ the west end of the street may have good cycle parking, but the east end of it is totally lacking (or at least I can never find it!). Kirst on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94659 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:24:34 +0000 Kirst 94659@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ But what if I want to buy a washing machine from, er, the museum? Min on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94657 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:24:12 +0000 Min 94657@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ They needn't worry, as one of the few streets in Edinburgh with any decent cycle parking, the council are almost certain to remove the bike parking spaces to create more car parking spaces. Wilmington's Cow on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94656 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:22:31 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 94656@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "Are they proposing to close the entire street? It is not very clear." I tihnk it's just extending the pavement out in front of the museum, meaning they'll have to take away the spaces in the middle of the road there. The road will just be given a kink. Wilmington's Cow on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94655 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:21:37 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 94655@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ The IAM really do come out with some crackers... The end of the world is nigh!!!! Min on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94654 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:19:46 +0000 Min 94654@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Are they proposing to close the entire street? It is not very clear. kaputnik on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94653 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:07:54 +0000 kaputnik 94653@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Oh dear, now they will only be able to park on 2 sides rather than 3? 40 parking spaces, if all cars had 4 passengers amounts to 160 people. Which is nearly exactly 2 double-deck busloads. I think we'll live. cb on "Some parking to be removed on Chambers Street" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9129#post-94650 Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:54:23 +0000 cb 94650@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <a href="http://www.scotsman.com/news/parking-spaces-to-be-axed-under-museum-plaza-plan-1-2695491">http://www.scotsman.com/news/parking-spaces-to-be-axed-under-museum-plaza-plan-1-2695491</a> "Dramatic plans to overhaul one of the Capital’s most historic streets and create a new performance space outside the National Museum of Scotland are set to be given the go-ahead." "the project will see a major section of the museum’s Caithness paving extended north into Chambers Street, creating a pedestrianised plaza and leading to the loss of 39 parking bays." "Neil Greig, director of policy at the Institute of Advanced Motorists, said: “Nearly 40 spaces is a big number to lose, and if the area is made more attractive more people will come in and they could well be in cars, so they need to find a strategy to fund parking elsewhere in Edinburgh" So Neil Greig admits that removing parking can make places more attractive, but...