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<title>CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum &#187; Topic: Bike parking in George Street</title>
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<title>chdot on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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ParkThatBike (@ParkThatBike)&#60;br /&#62;
16/01/2013 15:07&#60;br /&#62;
The Bethel Baptist Church in #Cambridge is getting free wall-mounted cycle parking. Apply on-line for yours! &#60;a href=&#34;http://goo.gl/LaZCJ&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://goo.gl/LaZCJ&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
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<title>chdot on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;there is a real dearth of this in Bruntsfield place between c. Gillespie Crescent and Whitehouse Loan?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;They did Bruntsfield in a big way and then some in Morningside. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Perhaps Tollcross is next. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Suggest/ask &#60;a href=&#34;mailto:cycling@edinburgh.gov.uk&#34;&#62;cycling@edinburgh.gov.uk&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>chdot on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;As for taking bikes into shops. Nice if they let you - and if you have the competence to manage a bike and pick stuff of the bottom/top shelves without inconveniencing others. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;BUT it's not &#34;sustainable&#34;. 'We' are hoping many more people will cycle. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;What might be fun - at a big shop with inadequate/suitably situated bike parking - would be for quite a few people with bikes to turn up (&#60;em&#62;at the same time&#60;/em&#62;...) and wander round with their bikes.
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<title>SRD on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;re cyclehoops and/or other parking - anyone agree with me that there is a real dearth of this in Bruntsfield place between c. Gillespie Crescent and Whitehouse Loan? &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;was trying to do some pre Christmas shopping with toddler, and locking up bike was a major hassle.
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<title>chdot on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Bike parking on George Street (etc.) could be so much better, but -&#60;/p&#62;
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There are definitely a lot of racks going in each year - many of them apparently on the basis of where the council receives the most suggestions [email &#60;a href=&#34;mailto:cycling@edinburgh.gov.uk&#34;&#62;cycling@edinburgh.gov.uk&#60;/a&#62;], e.g. the big set of installations dotted round Marchmont a year or two ago.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;is true and CEC is always looking for suggestions. A lot of new parking is CycleHoops - are there any on GSt?
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<title>gkgk on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 01:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;AH, spotted it - just along from JJ Giberts Brush and paint shop! The bike rack isn't in the July 2008 google streetview pic.
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<title>gembo on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;H Suskin Textile Merchant of shoreditch?
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<title>kaputnik on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 19:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@arrelcat - have you somehow hacked into the contents of my camera's memory card?! That's impressive divining.
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<title>Charterhall on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Does it work with a rear mudguard ?
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<title>Arellcat on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hint: not far from the premises of H Suskin, the textile merchant.
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<title>chdot on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Presume George Squareish/Laneish
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<title>kaputnik on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;wheel bike up to the vertical, rest front wheel in the U of the rack, D-lock through front wheel to secure bike, would require a cable also to get it through the frame.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I think this sort of thing is not perfect, but it's good for where space (or planning permission, or funding) are at a real premium.
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<title>Charterhall on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;How would you use it ?  Any chance of a photo ?
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<title>kaputnik on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Alas, wrong side of Princes Street. Clue - within 5 minutes walk (or 2 minutes cycle) of Peters Yard.
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<title>crowriver on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Looks like one of the lanes off Rose Street or St Andrews Square.
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<title>kaputnik on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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&#60;p&#62;Spotted today in town. Prize if anyone knows where it is. For the (I imagine) small sum of money an installation like this costs (and doesn't need to be bolted to pavement) I'm surprised I've never seen others like this in town.
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<title>DdF on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;The Linlithgow b/arber/ike shop is now hair only, but there's a new bike shop, &#60;a href=&#34;http://elevationcycles.co.uk/&#34;&#62;Elevation Cycles&#60;/a&#62;.  Please use them if you are in the area, as the local market is not huge and it would be good if they can make a go of the new shop.
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<title>Tulyar on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 12:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;My barbers in Glasgow (originally Eli Sabbah on W Nile St, now Hanif on Woodlands Road) are OK with the bike. Farmfoods also generally OK in all stores, although the Cambridge Street store prefers the bike left by check-outs rather than wheeled round.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;How are Farmfoods in Edinburgh? Could they be a first for the cycle-friendly supermarket award, or maybe the Co-op (I wonder if any of their PR folk read this?)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Of course the irony is that Tesco PR folk found no problem in having a naturists' shopping night, where the store was given over to naturists for shopping but cannot get their heads around a cyclists' shopping session* (which would not require closing the store to other customers and blanking out the windows) *Pick a quiet time of day for the store, and allow cycles inside, either (for a large store with wide aisles) going around the store, or in a managed way by the check-outs/entrance.   &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So that's another mention of barbers (if Glasgow counts) and we shouldn't forget the Linlithgow barber who also was a bike shop (may still be).  &#38;lt; Clears throat and starts voice training&#38;gt;
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<title>Arellcat on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 12:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;And now, the quartet:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf5YpUcWUFE&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf5YpUcWUFE&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>gembo on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 12:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;bernie the barber at newington must be gone to the great scalping shed in the sky? He looked like a most lugubrious clown prince of barbers did bernie.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Charlie barbers at longstone opens early but quality might depend on who you get shaving your locks?
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<title>chdot on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 12:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Two more mentions of barber's shops and we'll have a quartet.
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<title>gembo on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 12:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Scenarios very variable, even in the same shop dependent on personnel.  Sometimes perhaps there is an interpretation of regs such that the bike is an obstacle. I have noticed that my favoured shop Scotmid used to let me leave the bike inside the door, if I had forgotten my lock but now they might say you are not supposed to do that.  I went into an Asda a while back, had one item they sold that I needed, forgot lock. I asked the security guy if I could push the bike round the shop, he said no. I then asked  if he would look after my bike  and he said yes.  My radical way forward in 2013 is just to be convivial about it and if that gets me nowhere, just head off to another shop. Jim the barber at hay market lets me bring the bike in, if he isn't busy.
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 07:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Yes good post Tulyar.&#60;br /&#62;
The folks in Bob the Barber's at Tollcross always encourage me to take my bike right in to the shop, and it's not a big shop.
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<title>gkgk on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 06:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Good post, Tulyar.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There are a couple of sign posts outside Rohan. There's one further along (outside Barclay's) on the central island but nice and defensive, tucked behind some electrical boxes, for longer stops. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'd have sheffield racks all the way along G Street, parallel to the kerb, one foot in, one every 20m. It's less than the drivers get.
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<title>Tulyar on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 04:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@gembo actually hits the spot - the issue can be sorted substantially by the retailers themselves, and given that an outdoor clothing (&#38;amp; related items) store like Rohan is likely to see cyclists as a key customer, their willingness to allow a bike inside the store outside the really busy periods is a way forward.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;With the Brompton I never carry a lock, and almost every place I shop regularly accepts me wheeling in the bike and parking it up (at Lidl I go in with the trailer and leave it at the loading area by the check-outs) Because of this I can manage to visit 4-5 shops in under an hour , and a weekly stocking up on basics at Lidl is usually completed between 21.40 and when it closes at 22.00.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I've had a serious falling out with a new manager at the Sainsburys Local - where I used to leave the bike visible through the front window (and got on very well with the former manager), but the new guy seems to have a reputation - practically assaulting a neighbour who absent mindedly walked on to the forecourt whilst using a mobile phone.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;With the increasing competition to deliver the 'local' convenience store and the burgeoning number of Tesco Metro and Sainsburys Local I still find that the Co-op (and linked Alldays local stores) along with Aldi, Lidl, Spar and Nisa are all far more welcoming to cycle users, many allowing you to place the bike just inside the store, or even wheel it round if the place is quiet.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Basically, scoring-wise for me, Tescos are the pits - I was taken to task at the 24 hour store in Crewe for wheeling the bike in at 23.30 when the staff on the check outs outnumbered the customer (me) and the only person with a problem was the man in the uniform!  Some Sainsburys have been OK but most have no parking provision in sensible places - ie visible and close to the store. However it isn't just the corporates, as I changed the veg shop from one where the doorway was blocked up by boxes (surely against DDA compliance) and a 'hostile' atmosphere emanated when I tried to leave the bike visible or even fold it and carry it into the shop - well the new place is bike friendly guys, and I won't be shopping with you any more.   &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Basically if they can't accommodate the bike I have plenty of choice for places to take my business. I compare this to a brilliant manager we had on a Sustrans  site who basically gave the suppliers a choice - deliver to my sites or I'll find a supplier who will, and this meant he could run a 90 person project with just one 12-seat minibus.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Obviously with the growing use of cycles around Edinburgh, the business which doesn't just ignore cycle users but is practically cycle hostile is likely to lose out big time, especially as the word develops on where it is easier and more pleasant to shop by bike. Remember too that some 'local' independent shops are actually cheaper - Sainsburys milk - more expensive than local shop, likewise bars of chocolate, Hardware store - lights in cardboard boxes, a third of price for blister pack at B&#38;amp;Q, and screws etc sold individually instead of cartons of far more than you really need. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Perhaps a straw-poll/review of shops and suppliers who provide the best cycle-user oriented services?  Rohan sounds a good one for a start.
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<title>DdF on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@Instography &#60;em&#62;I like the way &#34;the system&#34; automatically edits your mild profanities.&#60;br /&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;Presumably you refer to the George Street b parking!
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<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I like the way &#34;the system&#34; automatically edits your mild profanities.
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<title>kaputnik on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hey! I only do that with colleagues who have significantly bigger wallets than me ;)
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<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 23:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Glass half full? It's like being in the pub with one of those people who says they like a beer but they drink really slowly and it's their round and you're down to your last mouthful. You want to think they'll get their round in before they b off home but their track record isn't that good.
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<title>kaputnik on "Bike parking in George Street"</title>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I openly admit I'm in the &#34;glass half (or largely) empty&#34; camp. I'm not that close to planning matters or the good intentions or noises made from the council - my main source of information from which I form my opinions of matters is what I see on the ground, and from that source of information, it's very hard to form a positive opinion, with more than 1/2 of the glass full.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Of course I'm hopeful and optimistic, but George Street ain't nothing but a big car park, and it would take a very skilful debater to convince me otherwise.
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