http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Reduced speeds, low emission zones and school street closures en Fri, 22 May 2026 01:15:28 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9316#post-97585 Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:11:24 +0000 fimm 97585@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What about Lanark Road? I can nearly do 30 down the steep bits anyway.. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9316#post-97577 Mon, 21 Jan 2013 15:29:51 +0000 cb 97577@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Comiston Road is a no-brainer for making 30mph, largely because very few cars drive at 40mph, probably 30-35 is the norm in my experience.</p> <p>The south-bound Comiston Road avoiding Braid Road rat-runners (make sense?) who *race* down Riselaw Crescent to get onto Comiston Road 'early' to jump the queue may, just may, be dissuaded from that tactic by a 30mph limit.<br /> But probably not. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9316#post-97574 Mon, 21 Jan 2013 15:21:51 +0000 Arellcat 97574@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>We want the main arterial routes like Queensferry Road to stay 40mph because traffic needs to flow. 
But in built-up areas we … want people to enter a residential area and automatically think 20mph.</em></p> <p>The converse: "We want people to know they can race their cars as soon as they leave a residential area."</p> <p><em>…considered for reductions from 40 to 30mph, as would Comiston Road in Morningside</em></p> <p>Comiston Road where it runs north through the southern flank of Morningside is already 30mph. It doesn't become a 40mph zone until south of its junction with Braid Hills Road, and that's in the Braids and Riselaw area, not Morningside. Given that I cycle up that blasted hill every day, I would be very happy if it was reduced to 30mph all the way to Fairmilehead. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9316#post-97565 Mon, 21 Jan 2013 14:13:36 +0000 crowriver 97565@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It gets worse: <em>Neil Greig of the Institute of Advanced Motorists said: “Very few children get injured near schools where they are closely supervised and drivers can see the risks.”</em></p> <p>Yeah, just keep your pedestrian brats under control and clear the f*****g streets, then nobody will get hurt when I drive up to the school gates with my little darlings in my urban tank. Alright? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9316#post-97560 Mon, 21 Jan 2013 14:07:48 +0000 crowriver 97560@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Luke Bosdet, spokesman for the Automobile Association (AA), also said that reductions in speed could have a knock-on impact on traffic flow around the city. </em></p> <p>Heaven Forbid that the Holy of Holies should be compromised in this manner! Outrageous!</p> <p>Hence: <em>City transport leader Lesley Hinds said: “We want the main arterial routes like Queensferry Road to stay 40mph because traffic needs to flow. 
</em></p> <p>Hallelujah! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9316#post-97558 Mon, 21 Jan 2013 14:06:20 +0000 kaputnik 97558@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>if a road feels safe</em></p> <p>A road feels far <em>too safe</em> in the cosseted environment of the modern motor-vehicle, where there is nigh on no physical connection or feedback to the outside environment for the drivist.</p> <p><em>A three-year project in The Grange, Morningside, Blackford and Prestonfield is now halfway through, but police found 40 per cent of drivers exceeded the limit by at least 5mph.</em></p> <p>Q. E. D. I. A. M. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9316#post-97554 Mon, 21 Jan 2013 14:03:21 +0000 Calum 97554@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"But key arterial routes into the city such as Queensferry Road and Calder Road would stay at 40mph"</p> <p>That's what they call Balancing The Needs Of All Road Users.</p> <p>Or, as I put it, Accepting A Certain Number Of Deaths To Cut A Few Minutes From Journey Times.</p> <p>Vision Zero FTW!<br /> A Model Cycling And Walking Friendly City FTW! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9316#post-97553 Mon, 21 Jan 2013 14:02:48 +0000 crowriver 97553@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I suppose if a motorway 'feels' 120 but is actually 70, then those coppers are just 'aving a larf, eh, Neil? </p> <p>Sensible move by the council. Which is why there will be huge opposition followed by a u-turn, presumably.</p> <p>Oh wait: "But key arterial routes into the city such as Queensferry Road and Calder Road would stay at 40mph. " So they got their u-turn in early. Crafty that. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9316#post-97550 Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:58:42 +0000 cb 97550@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/reduced-speeds-low-emission-zones-and-school-street-closures-among-ten-proposed-policies-1-2749087">http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/reduced-speeds-low-emission-zones-and-school-street-closures-among-ten-proposed-policies-1-2749087</a></p> <p>"<br /> 40mph zones across Edinburgh would be axed under new plans being considered by transport chiefs. Around 25 main roads could be reduced to 30mph to safeguard pedestrians, cyclists and motorists.<br /> "</p> <p>"Routes including Telford Road in north Edinburgh and Seafield Road in east Edinburgh would be considered for reductions from 40 to 30mph, as would Comiston Road in Morningside. Zones across the city, which number around 25 by recent estimates, would also be reviewed. But key arterial routes into the city such as Queensferry Road and Calder Road would stay at 40mph<br /> "</p> <p>"<br /> Neil Greig, director of policy at the Institute of Advanced Motorists [said] “Drivers make their speed choices based on the road environment and if a road feels safe at 40mph then most will understand and stick to it”<br /> "</p> <p>Yeah, that's good Neil - let the drivers decide. </p>