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CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Broomhouse Path http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Broomhouse Path en Wed, 13 May 2026 08:39:19 +0000 steveo on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=9#post-174232 Tue, 02 Dec 2014 11:27:12 +0000 steveo 174232@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Do you know if that is 'official'? They mentioned that had been adopted when I contacted them regarding the cyclist dismount debacle six months ago. steveo on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=9#post-174230 Tue, 02 Dec 2014 11:22:56 +0000 steveo 174230@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <strike>I think the spam trap has just eaten itself by trapping the administrator!!</strike> chdot on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-174228 Tue, 02 Dec 2014 11:13:05 +0000 chdot 174228@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "So now this has been "adopted" " Do you know if that is 'official'? It was still 'when it's handed over', even after CEC became wholly responsible for the tram. steveo on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-174224 Tue, 02 Dec 2014 11:05:56 +0000 steveo 174224@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ So now this has been "adopted", some might say made worse, by the council. Are they going to start gritting it? It was slippy under foot this morning and a couple of riders were sliding going up the little rise away from one of the crossing. Arellcat on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-163765 Sat, 30 Aug 2014 13:54:11 +0000 Arellcat 163765@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Surely the whole point of dedicated cycle infra is to make cycling faster, safer and more efficient? If it doesn't achieve all three you'd be as well to take your time walking everywhere, or coccooning yourself in a metal box and driving everywhere. chdot on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-163753 Sat, 30 Aug 2014 10:32:50 +0000 chdot 163753@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Maybe time for the second CCE 'delegation' to the transport committee? <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13251">Worked for Gogar Station Road</a>. chdot on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-163747 Sat, 30 Aug 2014 09:31:25 +0000 chdot 163747@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Of course the money shouldn't just come from the 'cycle budget' - this is 'tram legacy'. This is probably a more important 'get people cycling' route than much of the half-hearted "family network". Perhaps should be the next priority after Leith Walk and the Innocent to Canal 'gap'. chdot on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-163746 Sat, 30 Aug 2014 09:25:15 +0000 chdot 163746@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ " Cycling Edinburgh (@CyclingEdin) 30/08/2014 09:22 @LAHinds @adamrmcvey @AndrewDBurns current state of major cycle commute route <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-163744" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-163744</a> Will need holistic approach + money " <a href="https://twitter.com/cyclingedin/status/505631517499207680" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/cyclingedin/status/505631517499207680</a> chdot on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-163745 Sat, 30 Aug 2014 09:08:15 +0000 chdot 163745@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Great (and useful) set of pix. Nelly on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-163744 Sat, 30 Aug 2014 09:04:20 +0000 Nelly 163744@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ OK, so here goes for my starter to send to Lesley - comments and additions sought. Apologies if all the pics dont work first time: OK, so thursday was a nice sunny evening, left work at 6, and started these photos just east of Edinburgh Park tramstop - starting off, lets be honest the path looks pretty good - <img src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5554/15062136651_dbc571cfff_c.jpg"> At least the Cyclist Dismount signs are off at Bankhead - <img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3904/14878617297_4feae7ca5f_c.jpg"> But sadly are there at S Gyle Access - <img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3885/14878585988_8d1fc1a15c_c.jpg"> And the reasoning? This disastrous 'changed from a toucan to a two-cant' crossing - <img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3891/14878590768_670bea3fe9_c.jpg"> Just before the crossing, of course, was the piece de resistance - <img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3882/15062128021_658ec30638_c.jpg"> Follow the path to the Broomhouse Road Toucan, make sure you miss this crumbling bit of pavement, right at the apex, sharpening your bike handling in the wet - <img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3845/14878588748_5cb87a81f7_c.jpg"> Between Broomhouse Road and Saughton road there are umpteen examples of infra requiring repainting, relaying, or simply stopping access trucks ruining - <img src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5564/14878603267_f1af735497_c.jpg"> <img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3850/14878608047_aaccc50cd8_c.jpg"> <img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3901/14878463039_87f862533e_c.jpg"> The segment between Saughton Road and Stenhouse is not too bad and leads to the new bit of path down to Jenners Repository.......however, if like me your journey requires you to continue through Stenhouse. Surely they didnt just build a path round these?? Aye - <img src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5594/14878607947_738256b35a_c.jpg"> Closer - yep, its right in the line of the bike path - had some ped conflict here myself - <img src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5558/15065154735_1901b31f52_c.jpg"> At least there is a dropped kerb (if you spot it) to access the busy road eastbound - but this is horrifically dangerous if you try to access it westbound - <img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3847/14878571498_79666e1ea4_c.jpg"> ....but lets say you miss the unsigned dropped kerb, what awaits 10 yards on ? Nothing, get off, do not pass go, please jump into the traffic and take your chances - pretty shoddy if you were taking young kids on an offroad route to gain confidence - <img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3867/15065164975_0fab2bc949_c.jpg"> chdot on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-162228 Thu, 14 Aug 2014 19:21:21 +0000 chdot 162228@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ " Dave H (@BCCletts) 14/08/2014 14:29 @harts_cyclery @hank_chief @dnmnsmith @LAHinds @SRDorman @AndrewDBurns @CyclingEdin Huge missed opportunity not building wider tram tunnel " " Spokes CycleCampaign (@SpokesLothian) 14/08/2014 18:29 .@BCCletts We lobbied for wider tunnel but whole #tram project was 'one-track' <a href="http://www.spokes.org.uk/wordpress/2013/10/tramline-traumas/#s2" rel="nofollow">http://www.spokes.org.uk/wordpress/2013/10/tramline-traumas/#s2</a> @CyclingEdin @harts_cyclery @dnmnsmith " HankChief on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-162226 Thu, 14 Aug 2014 19:17:34 +0000 HankChief 162226@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Happy to be involved but I would want to go as far as the Tram depot. HC chdot on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-162225 Thu, 14 Aug 2014 18:31:07 +0000 chdot 162225@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Can't find a list, and there are a lot of threads on BP/tram route. Just a couple - <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7389" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7389</a> <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12970" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12970</a> Nelly on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-162221 Thu, 14 Aug 2014 17:55:43 +0000 Nelly 162221@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ chdot, I am on it most days but usually in a horrific rush. Let me see what I can do. If you have the old 'wish list' that would be useful. As steveo notes, certain aspects have not been touched (e.g. telecomms cabinets just past S Gyle access are classic fubars). If anyone else wants in, please shout! steveo on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-162196 Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:21:20 +0000 steveo 162196@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Only improvement I've seen is the westbound cyclist dismount sign (approaching gyle access) has now been moved to the crossing rather than 20m prior to it. chdot on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-162186 Thu, 14 Aug 2014 13:32:04 +0000 chdot 162186@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ A lot of the problems here have been 'tram related' and therefore CEC 'can't/won't do anything until it's handed over'. The handover has now taken place, and (I'm told) - 'The local team have been implementing repairs and will be doing more this year prior to adopting it for maintenance. Further improvements are not yet programmed but may be added for design next year'. No idea what is intended, but clearly a lot could be done and a lot really should be done to turn this into a classy (not quality!) commuter route for existing users, and more importantly, to encourage more people to use this route. In an ideal world it might be a good idea to take over some of the clogged up adjacent road space, but... CCE did a 'study tour' a while ago. Lots of photos were taken. Does anyone want to do it again and actually do a bit of a report/wish list to take to the council - not as a "demand", but a way of highlighting the issues (as seen by current users) and get some idea back of what is 'possible' and an indication of what amount of money is required. Also perhaps find some 'I would like to cycle there, but' people. gembo on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-160339 Fri, 25 Jul 2014 12:37:39 +0000 gembo 160339@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ if a cyclist is pushing a bike over a crossing have they become a pushist? I have a member of staff who has become a bit of a pushist. I see him pushing his bike to work in the morning and shout at him to get on his bike. The other day I got off and pushed with him, just to be sociable. Turns out he buys himself a big coffee before coming to work and has to push bike from coffee bar to office. I am guessing he must really like the coffee in this shop (he gets an americano which is three espresso shots and a lot of water, he tells me. THe machine does double shots so they fling a shot away, this is getting technical). We have a perfectly good cafe in the building but maybe does not do the americano the way he likes it. chdot on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-160337 Fri, 25 Jul 2014 12:30:57 +0000 chdot 160337@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ But have the signs been removed? kaputnik on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-160335 Fri, 25 Jul 2014 12:24:03 +0000 kaputnik 160335@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ where cyclists cannot legally use the crossing You might want to correct them that they can legally use the crossing, they cannot "legally" cycle over it. chdot on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-160333 Fri, 25 Jul 2014 12:17:09 +0000 chdot 160333@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Previously - "<a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=7#post-155436">this sign is at the Bankhead tram stop, there is another at the west side of the tram stop</a>" Email written last week (just been sent a copy) - " I can confirm that signs were erected in error around Saughton and South Gyle Access and are due to be taken down tomorrow. Some signs will remain around the pedestrian crossing at South Gyle Access where cyclists cannot legally use the crossing. " So presumably signs have gone? threefromleith on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-160223 Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:10:45 +0000 threefromleith 160223@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Be careful though - I was nearly taken out last week by a car which turned left out of Saughtonhall Avenue (?) and then left into Baird Drive at speed without indicating. I'd moved onto the raised speed table assuming the car was going straight on towards Balgreen... Luckily I was paying attention and was covering the brakes at the time. neddie on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-160182 Thu, 24 Jul 2014 09:33:41 +0000 neddie 160182@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ No need for bunny hops off the Ped X to Baird Dr. Just do a neat left then right over the corner of the pavement, avoiding the bin & tree, then end up on the raised speed table at the end Baird Dr. - no kerbs at all. Traffic is really light on Baird Dr too, so no issues about crossing it near the junction. Not perfect, but OKish BenN on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-160173 Thu, 24 Jul 2014 07:46:23 +0000 BenN 160173@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ As far as I am aware, the Family Cycling route signs (route 8?) at that crossing heading from Murrayfield to the Gyle already direct cyclists to use it as if it were a toucan crossing, which I think the council plan for it to be. (If that's the crossing you mean, Balgreen Rd and Baird Dr?), this would be a nice confirmation of that heading the other way. I cycle that way every night, and have never once seen someone NOT use the crossing when heading towards Murrayfield (the alternative being to dive into traffic at a blind junction next to the bridge then turn immediately right across oncoming traffic on a busy road!). The only problem is that the pavement on the Baird Drive side has not been adapted for bikes, so you have to bunny hop onto the road. threefromleith on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-160163 Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:18:03 +0000 threefromleith 160163@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Saw two workies putting up new signage by the green-man crossing at the Balgreen end of the tramside path last night. Tonight I saw that it looks like an official sign to tell cyclists that they should use the crossing (without the usual "Dismount and..." prefix!). Did anyone else notice the sign, and was I right in my interpretation of its meaning? threefromleith on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-159823 Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:51:05 +0000 threefromleith 159823@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ And no-one ever will. Crazy situation, and typical of City of Edinburgh council to take a perfectly good, existing shared-use path and allow it to become a partially non-cycling shared use path. I'll take these advisory signs seriously when they start advising drivers to get out and push when going along narrow roads or where there are lane closures due to roadworks :-) Nelly on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-159749 Sat, 19 Jul 2014 06:44:39 +0000 Nelly 159749@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Edd1e, not a bad idea! ThreefromLeith, its better..... You are supposed to get off before makro (going to work) and not remount until after the tram stop. In the 3 weeks or so of operation,I have seen one person do it!! neddie on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-159734 Fri, 18 Jul 2014 20:55:15 +0000 neddie 159734@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ We need some blue & white "Cyclists Stay Awesome" stickers to go over all the "Cyclists Dismount" signs threefromleith on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-159717 Fri, 18 Jul 2014 15:47:10 +0000 threefromleith 159717@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Am I just unobservant, or are the 'Cyclists Dismount' sides on the path beside the Bankhead tram stop new? So we're supposed to get off and walk the length of the stop and then get back on again? *Facepalm* kaputnik on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-156606 Wed, 11 Jun 2014 12:54:40 +0000 kaputnik 156606@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ The other step is to complain on the grounds it is too narrow for pedestrians, it's well below minimum widths recommended for wheelchairs to pass. It's bonkers to suggest "dismount" is a good solution - a rider pushing a bike is even wider than a rider on a bike! Nelly on "Broomhouse Path" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9318&page=8#post-156603 Wed, 11 Jun 2014 12:49:02 +0000 Nelly 156603@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ This is stupid - I, along with others here - use this route daily and nobody (really, nobody) has got off their bike there or at the tramstop at the college (see my photo above). Do we have some other step - take up with councillors etc or is Andrew Burns word final?