http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "Edinburgh’s Royal Mile set for majestic revamp" en Fri, 22 May 2026 04:57:05 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-120415 Fri, 02 Aug 2013 12:22:35 +0000 kaputnik 120415@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/royal-mile-traffic-ban-for-parts-of-famous-street-1-3027436" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/royal-mile-traffic-ban-for-parts-of-famous-street-1-3027436</a></p> <p><em>A BLANKET ban on cars using key stretches of the Royal Mile is set to be introduced after Christmas in a move to boost the fortunes of Edinburgh’s most iconic thoroughfare.</p> <p>Building on the success of the semi-pedestrianised section near City Chambers, planning chiefs are set to introduce traffic calming measures outside Canongate Kirk and create a no-car zone between Niddry Street and St Mary’s Street, though access would be allowed between 6.30 and 10.30am<br /> </em></p> <p>Of course, it's not a <em>blanket</em> ban as the headline would suggest, as there are hours of exemption!</p> <p>Fail! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-107717 Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:19:05 +0000 chdot 107717@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/latest-news/royal-mile-improvement-plan-is-backed-1-2895398" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/latest-news/royal-mile-improvement-plan-is-backed-1-2895398</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-107557 Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:41:23 +0000 gembo 107557@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I saw them setting up for that at the old Canongate Venture building tonight when left work around 6pm </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-107554 Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:15:09 +0000 chdot 107554@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHqp-PjCYAAkH6T.jpg"><img src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHqp-PjCYAAkH6T.jpg"></a></p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/sootyEH8/status/322757210092494850/photo/1" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/sootyEH8/status/322757210092494850/photo/1</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101905 Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:30:25 +0000 crowriver 101905@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Kim, yeah if only it was called "Royal" something or other. Or maybe "Queen's Drive"? Oh, except that already exists, and is a 40mph rat run for most if its length... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101893 Mon, 25 Feb 2013 14:56:27 +0000 Kim 101893@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"It is pedestrians that go to shops and cafes, not cars."? How odd, when we tried to get the planners to take that point on board with the redevelopment of Leith <strike>Walk</strike> Drive, they just didn't get it... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101872 Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:44:03 +0000 cb 101872@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Orange setts for the Canongate?</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/news/royal-mile-revamp-plan-for-orange-cobbles-1-2808605">http://www.scotsman.com/news/royal-mile-revamp-plan-for-orange-cobbles-1-2808605</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101678 Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:40:01 +0000 SRD 101678@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@bdellar. I would add only that for lots of people mixing is hard work. I don't think it ought to be, necessarily, but it can be. And lots of people don't have the patience to see the benefits that can be returned. So it is easier to strap their kids into childseats, than to negotiate bus travel where your kids may misbehave or ask awkward questions, not seeing that those kids benefit from seeing different people and learning how to talk politely to strangers, even strange ones. And generationally, this must perpetuate itself. If you've never had to engage with people with different senses of personal space, and different ideas of how you should interact as a child, then you are likely to find it threatening and challenging when you are an adult with your own kids. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101677 Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:27:26 +0000 bdellar 101677@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hmm, in some ways I think it's more complex than that, @CalumCookable. People withdraw into cars out of fear of strangers, and being in a car isolates you from strangers, allowing your fears to grow. It's why I hate gated communities and private schools, and love public transport. I LIKE mixing with others. People are generally decent. But cars put you into conflict with others, and the main interaction with strangers is fighting - almost literally - for space on the road. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101672 Sat, 23 Feb 2013 11:31:55 +0000 Calum 101672@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"muggers paradise"</p> <p>Hilarious. Another example of the normally-absent social conscience that appears in The Motorists whenever the right to drive is threatened. </p> <p>All streets must be dedicated to cars at all times. We must resist the threat of pedestrianisation, and any excuse, however feeble, will do. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101600 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:02:13 +0000 wingpig 101600@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>"I've never really had a problem with the setts on the Royal Mile - aren't they in pretty good nick?"</em></blockquote></p> <p>The right turn from St Mary's Street into the Canongate features some fairly ropey wobble-stones and a diagonal cliff unless you go wide, overshoot then make a right-angled turn. The Canongate itself is tarmac, so is mostly OK apart from drains and access holes. Between St Mary's Street and North Bridge the setts are fairly firmly wedged but very very juddery even at uphill speeds, making it tempting to go in the smooth gutter if there's nothing behind which would get the wrong impression. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101578 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:49:38 +0000 PS 101578@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@SRD Good point - the Lawnmarket to the Castle section is in shocking nick. I was thinking more of the surface from Holyrood to the Tron. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101576 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:42:41 +0000 SRD 101576@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>there is an alarming spot that looks like a buffalo wallow* on the mile between Johnstone terrace and the Mound. </p> <p>*possibly a bus stop </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101575 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:36:55 +0000 PS 101575@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've never really had a problem with the setts on the Royal Mile - aren't they in pretty good nick? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101572 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:21:20 +0000 mgj 101572@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>As long as the restrictions are on <strong>motorised</strong> vehicles they are to be welcomed. Making the street cycle <strong>friendly</strong> though is likely to involve some action on the setts.</p> <p>Amazing comments on the chipwrapper site though. Apparently tourists spend more money while on coaches than they might do while walking past shops on a nice street. A simple suggestion might be to make the esplanade the only place you can drop off a tour party, and Holyrood the only place a coach can pick up (or maybe Caltongate). Are there really that many people who couldnt walk a mile downhill? (or get a rickshaw) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101564 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:47:58 +0000 cb 101564@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> From Scotsman article -</p> <p>"It is pedestrians that go to shops and cafes, not cars."<br /> "</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/news/royal-mile-car-ban-mooted-under-new-council-plan-1-2805131">A different article to the one above</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101549 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:22:58 +0000 amir 101549@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes - that's very enlightened </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101548 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:21:10 +0000 chdot 101548@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>From Scotsman article -</p> <p> "It is pedestrians that go to shops and cafes, not cars." </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101547 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:19:55 +0000 amir 101547@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I can't remember that at POP </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101543 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:13:26 +0000 chdot 101543@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Like these?</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/2621422757/"><img src="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3260/2621422757_a1a4c28040.jpg"></a><br /> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/2621422757/">just another day in The Meadows</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101542 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:10:28 +0000 cc 101542@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>All they need to do is encourage crime-busting cyclists instead, surely... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101530 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:40:56 +0000 chdot 101530@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"at night without cars passing by"</p> <p>Well this is one of the interesting 'impressions'. </p> <p>'Cars have witnesses/people who might stop and help.'</p> <p>'All pedestrians are potential muggers', or 'no cars means fewer pedestrians'</p> <p>There <em>must</em> be some research somewhere(?) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101529 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:39:53 +0000 kaputnik 101529@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I had plain forgotten about the crime-busting nature of Royal Mile traffic. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101527 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:36:25 +0000 chdot 101527@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Oops (photo above). </p> <p>Right day, wrong place. </p> <p>Was dazzled by the blue tabards. </p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/7124709949/"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8002/7124709949_2df0c273db.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101526 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:34:31 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 101526@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<em>I don't like the idea of my daughter walking down the Royal Mile at night without cars passing by. It'll be a muggers paradise.</em></p> <p>Interesting comment. Cars as anti-mugging devices? Is the Royal Mile that busy with traffic in the wee small hours? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101523 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:25:58 +0000 chdot 101523@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>As long as this is still possible...</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/7122125109/"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7126/7122125109_478271d2cb.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101518 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:19:10 +0000 steveo 101518@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Lots of the obvious comments from the usual morons... </p> <p>--How will the shops manage with out deliveries<br /> --Think of the disruption<br /> --Council hates drivers</p> <p>I think we need an EEN bingo card. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101512 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:02:06 +0000 kaputnik 101512@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>All sounds good. Although it's less "majestic revamp" and more "bl**dy obvious". </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9553#post-101510 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:57:18 +0000 chdot 101510@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/scotland/edinburgh-s-royal-mile-set-for-majestic-revamp-1-2804792" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/scotland/edinburgh-s-royal-mile-set-for-majestic-revamp-1-2804792</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/2804554586/"><img src="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3227/2804554586_36a70f8ea5.jpg"></a><br /> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/2804554586/">flag seller</a> </p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/2803709497/"><img src="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3102/2803709497_eb61c64b99.jpg"></a><br /> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/2803709497/">escort</a> </p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/2804557530/"><img src="http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2044/2804557530_3ca9a8bf43.jpg"></a> </p>