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CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: PoP it in your diary and PoP along http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: PoP it in your diary and PoP along en Tue, 21 Apr 2026 08:48:06 +0000 sallyhinch on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=3#post-106454 Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:39:05 +0000 sallyhinch 106454@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ How did it go? Many takers? shuggiet on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-106380 Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:44:50 +0000 shuggiet 106380@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Yes.. See you there Bruce.. Uberuce on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-106376 Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:22:39 +0000 Uberuce 106376@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I'll lend a hand with the flyering. 6.45 at the start point? shuggiet on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-106364 Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:55:00 +0000 shuggiet 106364@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Had a quick look at the Grassmarket/Victoria St today. I will be there with a bundle of flyers at the start in Grassmarket from about 6.45pm, then we'll move up and down behind the barriers to the finish at the top.. Good luck to those here that qualified! shuggiet on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-105855 Tue, 26 Mar 2013 00:16:44 +0000 shuggiet 105855@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ We're also looking for helpers to distribute flyers at the Red Bull event in the Grassmarket this weekend! Somebody will be there from 6pm, but if anybody would like to hand some out earlier please let me know. shuggiet on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-105854 Tue, 26 Mar 2013 00:14:57 +0000 shuggiet 105854@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ POP Flyers are now out and about.. The following bike shops have agreed to be distribution points for picking up bundles of flyers if you'd like to spread the word to places it hasn't reached so far. Alpine Bikes Bicycle Repair Man Bike Smith Edinburgh Bicycle Coop Bike Chain (now EBC) Soul Cycles Bike Station If you need more than available at a shop, let me know and we can arrange some for you. As always, POP needs the help of CCEers.. chdot on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-104480 Fri, 15 Mar 2013 00:20:36 +0000 chdot 104480@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ There are a surprising number with no posts! fimm on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-104476 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 23:42:36 +0000 fimm 104476@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Well, <a href="http://wisob.wordpress.com/2013/03/14/on-snow-ice-and-falling-of-a-bicycle/">here you go</a>... (I wonder how many blogs there are out there with just one or two posts in them...) chdot on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-103907 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:09:34 +0000 chdot 103907@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ From above link - " And the reason I've not blogged about cycling is that a few years ago I discovered the wonderful CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum. And not only have they let me vent many insecurities and frustrations, but they have provided advice, a secondhand trailer, good deals on bikes, the occasional free accessory .... It's given me lots of material for the blog too.... " chdot on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-103904 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:02:32 +0000 chdot 103904@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "Say it even if someone else says it better" That has to be a good maxim. I think CCE acts a blog for many people. EDIT See post below! If everyone left here and started their own blogs, that would be slightly sad, but there would be more more spread/diversity. Obviously that won't happen! The people I know who blog mention it on here - so it's not an either or. The most important cycle blog post of the year (OK last year) was Andrew Burns writing about the QBC. OK he's 'famous'/important/influential. He doesn't just write about cycle issues. He also wouldn't have done the ride without a 'challenge' on Twitter - and an 'escort' by three people who post here. (Please) blog if you want - and tell us on here. Also tell your friends/politicians why you cycle and what would make it easier for others to do so too. Oh and it's not just about cycling - it's about making Edinburgh (and elsewhere) better. SRD on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-103903 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:55:03 +0000 SRD 103903@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @finmm "I've been reflecting on why I didn't blog for many years. One of the big reasons is that others put things so much better than I can" <a href="http://deceasedcanine.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/in-praise-of-on-line-communities.html" rel="nofollow">http://deceasedcanine.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/in-praise-of-on-line-communities.html</a> Instography on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-103899 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:45:14 +0000 Instography 103899@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ It's become a cliché but still the idea of a 'tipping point', that there comes a point where the pressure, the weight of opinion, in one direction leads to irresistible momentum, is true. One more blogger (and more frequent posts from other <cough> people who have been known to <blush> blog about cycling in their area) added to all the other factors, just adds to the weight. Say it even if someone else says it better. chdot on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-103894 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:36:37 +0000 chdot 103894@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ " The other thing is I feel that I'm the "wrong kind of cyclist" - yes I do do utility cycling and my Brompton is my usual tool for short distance getting from A to B; but I'm also the MAWIL/triathlete with the fitness to sprint away from lights and the confidence to slow down an LGV by giving the driver a Hard Stare. " I think you are exactly the right sort of cyclist! It's interesting that 'the blogger effect' is being cited (by Boris and others) as a reason for action. Not sure how true it is. London Cycle Campaign is also a factor (and has been mentioned) So (most?) importantly is the Times campaign - started because a journalist had a serious accident while cycling. It's therefore a mix of traditional campaigning, 'new media' and old media. Twitter is currently particularly useful in Edinburgh for getting action from Local Teams. So another blog/ger is unlikely to change the world. But the fact of more people in more places 'pushing' cycling seems to be advantageous at the moment. fimm on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-103889 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:15:36 +0000 fimm 103889@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I sometimes wonder about trying a blog - but I'm not sure what I would say. I think to create a successful blog you have to have stuff you want to say; and I think that anything I could say, others are already saying, and saying better than I can. The other thing is I feel that I'm the "wrong kind of cyclist" - yes I do do utility cycling and my Brompton is my usual tool for short distance getting from A to B; but I'm also the MAWIL/triathlete with the fitness to sprint away from lights and the confidence to slow down an LGV by giving the driver a Hard Stare. Someone like SRD who can talk about the issues of cycling with children is more useful to the debate about infrastructure etc. Or Roibeard's issues with cycling with his daughter to school, for example. ruggtomcat on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-103858 Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:38:39 +0000 ruggtomcat 103858@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ we need this <a href="http://www.wimp.com/inbruges/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wimp.com/inbruges/</a> chdot on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-103479 Sat, 09 Mar 2013 13:05:21 +0000 chdot 103479@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "I know some of you guys could do it! :-)" At least three do. Then there's the Spokes web site which is partly 'blog'. CCE is a useful outlet for people who don't have time/desire to maintain their own site. I think CCE acts is a useful place for exchanging info/ideas and act as an inspiration for people to do stuff - even if it's 'only' sending the occasional email. magnatom on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-103477 Sat, 09 Mar 2013 12:54:47 +0000 magnatom 103477@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ +1 Sally. I have actually said a number of times we need more 'angry' bloggers. I try my best on my own blog but we need more. Reading the posts on CCE I know some of you guys could do it! :-) sallyhinch on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-103464 Sat, 09 Mar 2013 11:32:38 +0000 sallyhinch 103464@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I think the main thing is the support we've had for POP's manifesto - at the end of the day that's what we all want to achieve however it comes about. The revolution in London (assuming Boris's announcement bears fruit) came about because of pressure from lots of directions - protest rides (both the flash ones around contentious points like Blackfriars Bridge, and the Big Ride on Parliament that triggered the original POP), persistent and prolific bloggers holding politicians to account, a concerted effort to affect the outcome of the mayoral election (Londoners on Bikes), a national newspaper campaign from the Times, and the London Cycling Campaign and other campaign groups adopting a clear message ('Go Dutch') about safer cycling and not accepting half-hearted measures. Scotland needs a similar broad front - not just POP, and not just Spokes. I'll keep doing POP because that's what I can do - but there are absolutely other ways to protest and other battles to fight, from Leith Walk on. chdot on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-103455 Sat, 09 Mar 2013 10:29:46 +0000 chdot 103455@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "tagged one of Chdot’s photos" No prob - they are all fine for 'non-commercial use'. tarmac jockey on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-103452 Sat, 09 Mar 2013 10:10:40 +0000 tarmac jockey 103452@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/6978383158/" title="IMG_4030.JPG by chdot, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7050/6978383158_2812a64703.jpg" alt="IMG_4030.JPG" /></a> It might be worth saying that I fully support the objectives of POP: Proper funding for cycling. Design cycling into Scotland’s roads. Slower speeds where people live, work and play Integrate cycling into local transport strategies Improved road traffic law and enforcement Reduce the risk of HGVs to cyclists and pedestrians A strategic and joined-up programme of road user training Improved statistics supporting decision-making and policy. I have tagged one of Chdot’s photos, hope you are cool with this Chdot?, from last year with me proudly taking part. While respecting the views of others, and at no point attempting to dissuade them from exercising their democratic right to pedal the established route on Sunday 19th , I know I will feel comfortable, riding the route, in my saddle on Saturday18th knowing I have not been “kettled”. SRD on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-103444 Sat, 09 Mar 2013 08:51:12 +0000 SRD 103444@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ The really worrying thing is that council is moving to charge for all such moving protests from 1 -April. And it's not clear that the councillors are aware of this. If you are concerned, please do write to your councillors. ruggtomcat on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-103439 Sat, 09 Mar 2013 05:22:27 +0000 ruggtomcat 103439@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ In case I'm misread, I fully support PoP, I just don't want it to be PaP (around). crowriver on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-103438 Sat, 09 Mar 2013 03:31:10 +0000 crowriver 103438@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ You may be unaware of this, but under Scots law moving processions require both council and police approval. Orders to prohibit marches, processions and events "likely to cause public disorder" or even just if they might be "contentious" can and are issued by CEC, GCC, etc. I think things like Critical Mass get away with it because they can just turn around and say "it's just a bike ride". Oh, except during the London Olympics, apparently. Rabid Hamster on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-103437 Sat, 09 Mar 2013 02:37:47 +0000 Rabid Hamster 103437@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Free and democratic country = UK. Last socialist country in the world = Scotland! Nobody can stop you exercising your democratic right to protest in a peaceful manner, as long as you are not breaking any existing statute law eg BofP, Recklessness, DC&A etc. I'll be there pedalling my wheel for the nuts as fast as I can! crowriver on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-103436 Sat, 09 Mar 2013 01:12:34 +0000 crowriver 103436@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ All marches/protests need permission from the cooncil. Otherwise they get banned, folk who turn up anyway get arrested, etc. I can see that some might be in favour of such an agent provocateur tactic. Frankly though if I'm bringing my family along I don't much fancy heads being split by riot police, ta. That may be the difference twixt a 20-something anarchist and a 40-something dad. It's also the difference between Smash the State/Make Some Noise rhetoric and a show of strength in numbers to try and influence a specific area of government policy. I think it's the latter that PoP is about, and has been from the start. Folk might be angry about the situation we're in but let's face it we're not about to declare the Commune. bdellar on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-103434 Fri, 08 Mar 2013 23:55:43 +0000 bdellar 103434@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Indeed. POP is *a* protest. If it's not your thing, don't come. Uberuce on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-103425 Fri, 08 Mar 2013 22:20:29 +0000 Uberuce 103425@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Slightly disappointing thread, methinkles. Ah well. If you can bear to turn up despite how snuggly we've been getting with The Man, then you'll have my gratitude. If not, then I will respect your intellectual honesty and await to see if protests with an ethos more in line with your own work better. I hope I will be gracious in rhetorical defeat should that turn out to be the case. LaidBack on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-103418 Fri, 08 Mar 2013 20:50:13 +0000 LaidBack 103418@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Might not be L&B. Will the new unitary Scottish Police force not be up and running? Rabid Hamster on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-103412 Fri, 08 Mar 2013 19:00:11 +0000 Rabid Hamster 103412@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ That's a Royal High scarf he's wearing!... ahhh, brings back memories of the CCF and 'IF' with Malcom McDowell! Anyway on topic... the 'kettling' has already been done and PoP2 hasn't noticed yet? Closing the roads for the <strike>event</strike> protest is not the point. Vot is point? Point is to make cycling in Scotland safer for all ages, types and abilities, so on PoP 'weekend' we all have to get on our cycles and be seen to be protesting en masse in a calm and friendly way. This goes for the 'feeder rides' as well, so I don't want to witness any thuggish pelotons on my travels through the city with my Schwalbe road train! I'm hoping CycleCop will get all his mates out on the day too though! They were so understanding and pally last year, it was a pleasure dealing with L&B's Finest! stiltskin on "PoP it in your diary and PoP along" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9639&page=2#post-103410 Fri, 08 Mar 2013 18:16:40 +0000 stiltskin 103410@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <img src="http://www.tootingpopularfront.com/citizensmith.jpg"> Or something