http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "DC Insiders Give Anonymous Political Advice to Cyclists" en Wed, 13 May 2026 02:35:20 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9664#post-103831 Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:34:01 +0000 gkgk 103831@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Disappointed to see DC is Washington DC not David Cameron DC. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9664#post-103830 Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:23:03 +0000 chdot 103830@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"basically a bunch of washington folk saying they don't want to deal with it - much like Keith Brown etc."</p> <p>I think that's true, but doesn't invalidate the idea of talking 'beyond cycling'. </p> <p>“If you can get the small business community to come out and understand that when traffic speeds go over 25 mph their business goes down, then its game over.”</p> <p>Yes, though that can't apply to many places. Persuading them that reducing speeds is good <em>ought</em> to be easy. </p> <p>One problem is that businesses that perceive that parking restrictions - for customers or deliveries - will affect them, shout the loudest. </p> <p>We all know how CEC hates disadvantaging motorised travellers. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9664#post-103818 Mon, 11 Mar 2013 17:41:30 +0000 PS 103818@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Two words: Leith Walk. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9664#post-103817 Mon, 11 Mar 2013 17:32:41 +0000 SRD 103817@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This is good though:</p> <p>“If you can get the small business community to come out and understand that when traffic speeds go over 25 mph their business goes down, then its game over.” </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9664#post-103816 Mon, 11 Mar 2013 17:30:26 +0000 SRD 103816@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Okay, I've read the full list linked to, and glanced through the presentation/report which the list links to. </p> <p>And, I have to say, the bottom half of the list is basically a bunch of washington folk saying they don't want to deal with it - much like Keith Brown etc. </p> <p>Not impressed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9664#post-103800 Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:51:10 +0000 chdot 103800@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> The report from the consultant, which was released at the National Bike Summit last week, included some very candid, and pointed, advice to cyclists:</p> <p>#11: “You have some very well meaning, but out of touch and arrogant (bicycling advocates) who come in and turn people off.”</p> <p>#10: “Bicycling has very much had a cultural aspect predicated on exclusion and identity…they need to get away from talking about themselves to what’s in it for (others).”</p> <p>#9: “It can’t be about critical mass and kicking ass. It has to be about multimodal, progressive, transportation options.”</p> <p>"</p> <p>And more -</p> <p><a href="http://www.bikede.org/2013/03/11/dc-insiders/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bikede.org/2013/03/11/dc-insiders/</a> </p>