http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: " 'Millions of cars' damaged by potholes" en Mon, 01 Jun 2026 04:34:13 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9688#post-104495 Fri, 15 Mar 2013 01:39:03 +0000 Focus 104495@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>According to that headline, they're improving then! ;-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9688#post-104489 Fri, 15 Mar 2013 01:07:26 +0000 chdot 104489@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/transport/more-than-one-in-three-scots-roads-sub-standard-1-2837562" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/transport/more-than-one-in-three-scots-roads-sub-standard-1-2837562</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9688#post-104452 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 19:57:37 +0000 custard 104452@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>really dont want to get into it with me and pothole damages! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9688#post-104382 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:43:11 +0000 chdot 104382@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"worst bits of main roads are in direct proximity to bus stops"</p> <p>Yeah but council has taken a long time to realise that bus stops should be concrete - or at least have a firmer sub-base. </p> <p>However most of 'our' problems are with badly filled utility trenches. </p> <p>Some of the worst roads never see a bus. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9688#post-104381 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:32:45 +0000 kaputnik 104381@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Lothian Buses should be paying the lion's share for Edinburgh. It does not take a genius to work out that the worst bits of main roads are in direct proximity to bus stops. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9688#post-104365 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:21:02 +0000 paul.mag 104365@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>On the subject of who should pay and whose fault it is there are a few different ways of looking at it. In my opinion many of the gouges, divots, lumps and holes are there because of infrastructure work for gas, electric, cable, sewage etc and then "made safe". These quickly deteriorate causing the uneven surface, I don't understand why the surface isn't returned to as it was (provided it wasn't a piece of crap already) at that is surely down to the council not signing off on the work? As for HGVs &amp; buses causing issues, yeah they do and that's to be expected and why we pay tax. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9688#post-104357 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:33:50 +0000 cb 104357@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>One third said their car had been damaged in the last two years?</p> <p>Really?</p> <p>Does this include people who drove through a nasty pothole once and it made a nasty noise so they think it 'might' have done some damage? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9688#post-104356 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:32:29 +0000 Uberuce 104356@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've got big ol' antibodies of various types to single occupant car use as mass transport, but one thing I can't really fault it for is the state of the road surfaces.<br /> Not when HGVs and buses do the bulk of the damage, and transport many/most/almost-all of the goods and service providers I use.</p> <p>In the hypothetical arguments with my Devil's Advocate who says I dodge 'road' tax, I've tried to counter by saying I should actually get a rebate for saving the country these costs, but that scumbag version of me with the horns and bifurcated tail always comes right back with HGVs and buses.</p> <p>The counter-counter...counter...(?) is that we need a paradigm shift to smaller vehicles, or barges, or rail, or hovercraft, or retasking all those storks that became unempployed when the birth rate fell, but that's for the long term. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9688#post-104346 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:51:40 +0000 chdot 104346@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> HMEP is a sector-led transformation programme designed to maximise returns from highways investment and deliver efficient and effective services. Aimed at the local highways sector, the programme runs to 2018 and is sponsored by the Department for Transport who are providing £6 million funding.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.dft.gov.uk/hmep" rel="nofollow">http://www.dft.gov.uk/hmep</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9688#post-104344 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:41:49 +0000 chdot 104344@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Suppose everybody could pay more to fix the roads for the proportion who use them"</p> <p>Or in proportion to damage they do. </p> <p>1 HGV = N+1 bicycles</p> <p>Fewer cars, less speed will also do less damage. </p> <p>You'd think councils would have an interest in changing travel habits... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9688#post-104343 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:36:36 +0000 Dave 104343@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm always in two minds about this. Suppose everybody could pay more to fix the roads for the proportion who use them, or the same money could be spent by those who use them on repairs themselves. </p> <p>Which would be the fair outcome? In some ways it seems rough on the retired people in our stair to ask them to dig deep for millions of pounds worth of road repairs when they don't drive. On the other hand, maybe they owe it to society. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9688#post-104336 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:21:31 +0000 wee folding bike 104336@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>And two of my wheels. North Lanarkshire told me I couldn't prove their hole did it even though I sent them a picture of the hole with a ruler in it to give the scale. </p> <p>The memsahib has written off two car tyres on holes in the last 5 years and the only thing our wee 153 thousand mile on the clock car needed for its MOT last month was a couple of bushes on the front suspension which might not be unrelated to the state of roads. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9688#post-104335 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:14:10 +0000 chdot 104335@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>Councillor Peter Box, chair of the LGA's Economy and Transport Board, said: "Decades of underfunding by Whitehall, severe winters and recent widespread flooding has left large swathes of our roads in disrepair with many councils struggling to move beyond simply patching up a deteriorating network."</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21770969" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21770969</a> </p>