http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Edinburgh Tram Survey en Sun, 17 May 2026 05:34:35 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9701#post-104876 Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:50:23 +0000 Min 104876@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It is infinitely better than some of the ones we have had posted recently! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9701#post-104867 Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:37:27 +0000 neddie 104867@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The survey is badly written as it pre-biases the person taking the survey (negatively) by means of the introduction/backgroung </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9701#post-104769 Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:12:09 +0000 LaidBack 104769@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>People will drive/cycle for miles just to use them,</em></p> <p>That's the reason the second Forth Bridge is being built. I predict that the P+R site will need to be increased. </p> <p>So we'll have an unwanted bridge bringing business to the tram. Perfect! Of course the rest of the day it will be nice and quiet and I predict fares will go to the Scotrail congestion charge model with a premium rate between 4.30 and 6.30.</p> <p><em>Congestion charging alway works on public transport!</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9701#post-104765 Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:54:33 +0000 wee folding bike 104765@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>An Oyster type card would be useful (not just edinburgh but scotland wide)</em></p> <p>Already thought of…</p> <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-19784516" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-19784516</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9701#post-104763 Sun, 17 Mar 2013 16:19:27 +0000 crowriver 104763@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>everyone in corstorphine will get rid of their cars</em></p> <p>Aye right! I wish... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9701#post-104762 Sun, 17 Mar 2013 15:52:08 +0000 cb.pola 104762@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Have posted my 2d worth. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9701#post-104671 Sat, 16 Mar 2013 11:13:25 +0000 Nelly 104671@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Its interesting, I had not considered the tram for airport use until recently - the tram 'should' have a large impact on the airport car parking (and hence some of the traffic to / from airport)if some large employers crack the whip re parking costs at airport.</p> <p>My office is at Edinburgh Park, and we have a lot of people using the airport every day of the week.</p> <p>Short stay costs (up to) £29 for the day (!) - I predict it wont be long after the trams are in operation that my work will be telling people to either use the office car park and wander across to the tram stop (a hundred yards or so) - or use some combo of the train/trams to use airport.</p> <p>I wonder if the first few months of operation will be quiet then ramp up a bit as people get used to using a combo of bus/train/tram?</p> <p>An Oyster type card would be useful (not just edinburgh but scotland wide) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9701#post-104656 Sat, 16 Mar 2013 10:08:30 +0000 gembo 104656@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There will be a kuhnian shift in perception if the trams ever get finished and people start using them. People will drive/cycle for miles just to use them, people will go out to the airport just for the hell,of it, everyone in corstorphine will get rid of their cars </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9701#post-104655 Sat, 16 Mar 2013 10:03:10 +0000 Min 104655@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Firstly the line is in the wrong place - a more obvious route would have been their "line 3", linking Waverley Station with the Royal Infirmary via Edinburgh University and Cameron Toll, thus ensuring massive popularity all along the route all day. </em></p> <p>Yes but that would benefit residents and we can't have that. Our pounds should only ever be spent on tourists and don't you forget it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9701#post-104652 Sat, 16 Mar 2013 09:31:28 +0000 cc 104652@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I put in my survey response that my attitude had changed (from initial wild enthusiasm) for two reasons.</p> <p>Firstly the line is in the wrong place - a more obvious route would have been their "line 3", linking Waverley Station with the Royal Infirmary via Edinburgh University and Cameron Toll, thus ensuring massive popularity all along the route all day. Secondly because of the designers' and builders' contemptuous destruction of miles of existing cycle facilities, and their arrogant refusal to lay the tram tracks in a way that was safe for cycling, despite being supplied with well informed requests and advice on the matter beforehand.</p> <p>The first we can't do anything about, we'll just have to cross our fingers and hope that enough people actually want to use the route they ended up with that the trams don't lose money hand over fist. The second we might be able to do <em>something</em> about if we keep trying, so it's well worth going on about it. Not to relay the tram tracks, though goodness knows they do need to be radically moved, but at least to arrange safe crossing points, to explain that cycle paths shouldn't have flights of steps in them, that sort of thing. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9701#post-104647 Sat, 16 Mar 2013 00:11:05 +0000 barnton-to-town 104647@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Theu're not going to go away. I was against them <strong>until </strong>the initial go ahead was given, for much of the same reasons as have been given. Maybe once the decision was made, if we'd all put up, shut up and pulled together, the tram project would be in a better place. Inquiry after inquiry after inquiry ... didn't come cheap.</p> <p>Plus; if the EEN is against something (although it still laughably claims to be neutral), these days I'm instinctively FOR something. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9701#post-104564 Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:56:23 +0000 cc 104564@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I enjoyed that. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9701#post-104552 Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:10:52 +0000 kaputnik 104552@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Moan about the tram? Why, of course! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9701#post-104550 Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:05:37 +0000 chdot 104550@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>If you answered YES to Q1, how have you been affected by the tram project?</p> <p>"</p> <p>"Major disruption to cycle path (Russell Road) and MANY road closures without adequate (or usually any) alternatives/signing. " </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9701#post-104549 Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:51:26 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 104549@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>For the dissertation of a boyfriend of a friend of a colleague...</p> <p><a href="http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WP9K6BS">Click here</a></p> <p>Only takes a few minutes, thought I'd try and get them some more cycling views. </p>