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<title>CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum &#187; Topic: Today&#039;s Rubbish Passenger</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2026 19:22:21 +0000</pubDate>

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<title>kaputnik on "Today&#039;s Rubbish Passenger"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2013 12:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Today's (yesterday evening's) rubbish passenger almost doored me as I was approaching the ASL on the inside. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I was saved this fate however as the passenger happened to be holding a Hi-viz vest in the hand that was moving across to open the door and I caught this out of the corner of my eye and managed to do the mental maths quick enough to pull left and around the door.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;No cross words were exchanged, merely &#34;nice&#34; advice about checking mirrors before opening doors. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So, mandatory hi-viz for car-passengers I say.
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<title>ARobComp on "Today&#039;s Rubbish Passenger"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9717#post-105048</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I ride along there most days - it's (un)surprising how often this happens and I spotted which car it'd be the second it came on screen (saw this on twitter first) You get people drifting pretty badly on this part of the road as well as they are on their phones/chatting etc.
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<title>Wilmington&#039;s Cow on "Today&#039;s Rubbish Passenger"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Indeed, as Min says, in the original post.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'd slowed down from a higher rate of knots precisely because of the positioning.
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<title>Min on "Today&#039;s Rubbish Passenger"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9717#post-105023</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Yes it did. It is in the opening post.
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<title>rust on "Today&#039;s Rubbish Passenger"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9717#post-105019</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;If the nearside of the car hadn't actually been in the cycle lane you'd have had an extra 20cm of wiggle room.&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But I reckon the positioning of the car would have triggered my ****wit radar.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;WC, had you registered the car before the door opened?
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<title>Wilmington&#039;s Cow on "Today&#039;s Rubbish Passenger"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9717#post-105018</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Wilmington&#039;s Cow</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;In fairness that's only happened 3 or 4 times in about 5 years of commuting that route off and on. And the parallel routes are a pain I find - shared use paths which, at that time of the morning, are full of commuters and schoolkids - Melville Drive goes &#60;em&#62;exactly&#60;/em&#62; from and to where I need in the most direct and practical way.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But yes, I'm constantly hovering over the brakes and keeping an eye out for what's going on ahead.
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<title>cc on "Today&#039;s Rubbish Passenger"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9717#post-105013</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I'm glad you lived to tell the tale!  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;That lane looks too scary for me - going that close to cars I'd constantly be expecting an imminent dooring. I reckon if I dared to use that lane at all I'd go very slowly and I'd ring my bell continuously all the way along it to attract attention. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But really I just wouldn't cycle there.  This was the Meadows? I'd go on one of the several quieter parallel roads or paths nearby so I could avoid the cars as much as possible. It's a bad design - the lane is simply too dangerous to use as far as I can see.
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<title>cb on "Today&#039;s Rubbish Passenger"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9717#post-105000</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;If the nearside of the car hadn't actually been in the cycle lane you'd have had an extra 20cm of wiggle room.
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<title>Wilmington&#039;s Cow on "Today&#039;s Rubbish Passenger"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9717#post-104992</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Wilmington&#039;s Cow</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;This was the near dooring... &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6juDs51iWZM&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6juDs51iWZM&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>crowriver on "Today&#039;s Rubbish Passenger"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9717#post-104953</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Aye, had one of these this afternoon on McDonald Road as I was in the cycle lane filtering up to the ASL at the lights (on red). Luckily I spotted it from afar, so as the lady in question got out, I was able to quip &#34;Y'know, maybe you could look where you're going?&#34; in an exasperated tone. At least she said sorry like she meant it.
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<title>kaputnik on "Today&#039;s Rubbish Passenger"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9717#post-104915</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@Meepmeep &#60;em&#62;Ask the fella to turn it up a wee bit!&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;As soon as his back is turned, I usually turned it off!
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<title>Wilmington&#039;s Cow on "Today&#039;s Rubbish Passenger"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Wilmington&#039;s Cow</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Bit of a coincidence that kaputnik.... And sally, while there are some niggly little things in that campaign, for the msot part it's better than a lot we see!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Interestingly I was told on Twitter that Dutch kids are taught to open car doors with the hand furtherst away as this naturally makes you turn round and look over your shoulder. By 'taught' I don't know if it's an actual official thing, or in their equivalent of the HC, or just a cultural thing.
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<title>MeepMeep on "Today&#039;s Rubbish Passenger"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9717#post-104903</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>MeepMeep</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Kappers: I get the muffled impression of songs on the radio through the wall in the ladies changing rooms but can never make out the waffling. Ask the fella to turn it up a wee bit!
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<title>sallyhinch on "Today&#039;s Rubbish Passenger"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9717#post-104878</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>sallyhinch</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;There's this as well &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.whatmattersmost.org.uk/index.html&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.whatmattersmost.org.uk/index.html&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Surprisingly non-annoying for a road safety campaign
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<title>kaputnik on "Today&#039;s Rubbish Passenger"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Oh that's happened to me 2 or 3 times before on Melville Drive with school-kids getting decamped. Parents stuck in traffic so they tell the kids to abandon car into the cycle lane, with nobody checking mirrors.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Interestingly the radio in the changing rooms this morning had an advert aimed at drivers telling them to check up the left side of the car before making a maneouvre, incase there was a cyclist on the inside of them.
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<title>Wilmington&#039;s Cow on "Today&#039;s Rubbish Passenger"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9717#post-104856</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Wilmington&#039;s Cow</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Heading along Melville Drive from east to west this morning at a reasonable lick with a tailwind. Traffic ahead queueing. Already wary of a white car that has its left indicator on and seesm to be edging to the kerb. Then indicator goes off and the car straightens back up. Only for the door to start to open as I'm less than ten yards away.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Lucky I can shout loud, which saw the door pulled 'slightly' to as I brake, swerve, unclip, which was even hairier by the convenient placement of a drain cover in my swerve path.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;'Sorry' says the passenger as I, impressively expletive-less, simply cry, &#34;Jesus!&#34; in a blasphemous fashion before carrying on my way. Interesting to see if the camera makes it look as scary as it was.
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