http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: " Gross Cycling Product’ Report " en Mon, 18 May 2026 21:01:25 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9814#post-106238 Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:34:08 +0000 cc 106238@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Where the bikes are made is surely not <em>that</em> crucial.<br /> Second hand bike shops are a great contribution to the economy - they provide employment for the people that work there and own them and they provide lovely cheap transport (to work, to the shops, to cafes, etc.) for the customers. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9814#post-106223 Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:22:02 +0000 Kim 106223@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So this report which claims to "attempt to chart the full extent of cycling’s contribution to the British economy", misses out the well known health and productivity benefits from people cycling to work... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9814#post-106220 Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:13:52 +0000 wee folding bike 106220@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Does nobody buy spares or does that come under accessories? </p> <p>Lost the wee flap from a Brompton back mudguard last night or this morning. I think there is an old one in the garage from a broken mudguard so no gross product there. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9814#post-106195 Thu, 28 Mar 2013 12:04:34 +0000 Instography 106195@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I blame twitter. Welfare is only 7 characters compared with 15 needed for social security. LOL. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9814#post-106190 Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:49:10 +0000 Morningsider 106190@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The total figure is nonsense - of the £1.62bn in bike sales only £51m were British made, and even that is probably an overestimate of the value of "British" bikes to the economy given the use of foreign produced components. The same goes for spares/components. The amount of money staying in the UK from bike and component sales will be far less than the amounts quoted, with the vast majority going to the overseas manufacturers.</p> <p>Also, pet hate of mine - it isn't "welfare", it's "Social Security". This change in the language suits the current UK Government's attempts to portray benefit recipients as receiving Government/taxpayer largess rather than payments they are legally entitled to, and have probably paid for many times over during their working lives (pensions being by far the largest part of the social security budget). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9814#post-106187 Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:45:45 +0000 Baldcyclist 106187@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> How does this compare to the Motoring Economy? I'd bet less than favourably in purely cash terms<br /> "</p> <p>According to this govt website (<a href="http://www.ukti.gov.uk/export/sectors/advancedengineering/automotive.html">http://www.ukti.gov.uk/export/sectors/advancedengineering/automotive.html</a>), fairly well if the £11bn figure is to be believed. More likely the £2.9bn is massively over estimated, or isn't measuring even close to the same thing. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9814#post-106185 Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:39:55 +0000 steveo 106185@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>How does this compare to the Motoring Economy? I'd bet less than favourably in purely cash terms. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9814#post-106180 Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:29:16 +0000 Charterhall 106180@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Compare to the £160b spent on welfare. Like Inst says, peanuts. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9814#post-106176 Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:19:57 +0000 cc 106176@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Going by the diagram, they haven't taken into account the social &amp; commercial improvements which more cycling &amp; less driving can make in an area. Possibly a bit difficult to quantify that though...</p> <p><em>peanuts</em></p> <p>I don't know, £48 a person including all those who don't cycle. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9814#post-106175 Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:12:42 +0000 Instography 106175@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>£2.9b is peanuts. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9814#post-106174 Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:11:10 +0000 chdot 106174@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Back on topic -</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/8597683208/"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8110/8597683208_f7b9c03202.jpg"></a><br /> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/8597683208/">Cycling is good for the economy</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9814#post-106172 Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:58:19 +0000 wee folding bike 106172@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Never tried a gel but sardines are super gross. They still have heads. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9814#post-106170 Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:46:58 +0000 Arellcat 106170@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I always thought energy gels were pretty gross. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9814#post-106169 Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:42:28 +0000 wee folding bike 106169@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I thought it meant a gross product like sardines. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9814#post-106168 Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:38:04 +0000 chdot 106168@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> We believe this is the first-ever attempt to chart the full extent of cycling’s contribution to the British economy. Previous studies have focused on particular sectors such as the bicycle retail trade, but never before has a study been conducted into the true. ‘Gross Cycling Product’ (GCP) of UK plc – from bike sales to improved health.</p> <p>The GCP report was conceived by Sky and British Cycling and has been made a reality through the London School of Economics. We commissioned the report, to act as a stake in the ground, a demonstration of where cycling is right now in the UK, and where it has the potential to go with the right support, delivering benefits that all of us can enjoy.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://corporate.sky.com/documents/pdf/press_releases/2011/the_british_cycling_economy" rel="nofollow">http://corporate.sky.com/documents/pdf/press_releases/2011/the_british_cycling_economy</a> </p>