http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: another first (not?) for stagecoach en Mon, 18 May 2026 21:33:23 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9903#post-107365 Wed, 10 Apr 2013 14:57:40 +0000 paul.mag 107365@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I agree edd1e_h, it's what I always try to do as well. Always good practise to plan ahead even trying this I still get caught by the City link bus just before Drum Brae roundabout and also just outside the Marriot at Gogar as they indicate but don't move or decide to shoot </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9903#post-107352 Wed, 10 Apr 2013 14:17:50 +0000 neddie 107352@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>When passing buses, I try to predict when they will set off by looking at the passengers getting on. This gives an earlier warning than the driver's indicators.</p> <p>Last passenger has just got on = Wait behind.<br /> 1 or more passengers to get on = OK to go.</p> <p>Of course, this means you have to look from quite far back, as you are pulling out gradually anyway (which restricts you view of the passengers getting on) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9903#post-107332 Wed, 10 Apr 2013 12:37:16 +0000 slowcoach 107332@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>re the warning given by noisy engines on some buses, Lothian Buses have some new hybrid buses which include a range of new features such as engine-off at idle and silent take-off. They will be holding an event with these this Saturday, 13/04/13 on Castle Street in Edinburgh from 1100-1500. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9903#post-107328 Wed, 10 Apr 2013 11:42:15 +0000 kaputnik 107328@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>One of my greatest grumbles with buses is when they are pulled in to stop and you begin to pass. As you are almost passed, the driver will set off. Rather than let you pass and in front, they will keep pace and ultimately win the battle of acceleration when it passes 20mph. You are then left in the less desirable position of being in the "car" lane, probably with a string of traffic up your tail, and no way to pass the bus beyond waiting for it to undertake you and then pulling in.</p> <p> Of course you usually pick the bus up at the next stop and then once you're passed don't see it again. It's immensley frustrating, not to mention dangerous. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9903#post-107325 Wed, 10 Apr 2013 10:52:03 +0000 Dave 107325@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>When I was riding out to Fife I'd interact with 20+ Lothian buses and one or two Stagecoach at most, and I'd say 99.9% of my issues were with Stagecoach - speaks volumes.</p> <p>It should be compulsory training for bus drivers to cycle past a bus which starts pulling out into busy traffic (or to be on the inside of a bus which half overtakes then moves into the kerb). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9903#post-107324 Wed, 10 Apr 2013 10:48:04 +0000 steveo 107324@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>One reason I'm glad I no longer commute along St Johns road. Between them, the Fife Buses and the West Lothian <strike>Kamikazes</strike> First Buses it was getting genuinely worrying. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9903#post-107323 Wed, 10 Apr 2013 10:31:16 +0000 paul.mag 107323@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think that the other issue the city link/stage coach drivers might have is their timetable. Must be nigh on impossible to accurately set a timetable when you have 45 miles of M8 to factor in. At least with city centre buses a route will usually always take the same time. I do agree though that they seem overly aggressive and less likely to think of cyclists, i've had personal experience of them suddenly stopping or pulling out or sitting in the bus lane indicating to pull out and not moving and the rather frightening one where the bus decided it liked my lane more than the one it was in while i was between the front and rear wheels! Luckily I had the left filter lane of the roundabout approach to bail into. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9903#post-107318 Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:35:37 +0000 kaputnik 107318@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Think Citylink drivers trained for the motorway and given precious little training for the city centres. Not so much a problem in Glasgow where they just have to get from M8 to Buchananan Street, however they have 7 miles of not-motorway to navigate in Edinburgh and just keep their foot down regardless.</p> <p>Fortunately they don't have to turn much, as I'm not sure they're aware how their long wheelbase buses with the rear-axle steer actually handle round a tight bend. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9903#post-107317 Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:30:38 +0000 sg37409 107317@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote>City Link bus is approaching on Princes Street by the roaring engine just before it flies past at 40mph. </blockquote></p> <p>I recognize this. Closely followed by a billowing cloud of dust/salt/crisp pokes in its slipstream.</p> <p><blockquote>suspect you get the young bloods who haven't calmed down</blockquote></p> <p>I think this is right, but sadly not age related. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9903#post-107307 Wed, 10 Apr 2013 04:56:21 +0000 Tulyar 107307@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sloppy Press Release and sloppier reporting. For past 4 years there has been EU requirement for bus driver vocational training and almost all include cyclist awareness.</p> <p>This is a) 1500 drivers employed in London, and it is b) cycle training - is teaching drivers how to ride bikes.</p> <p>Depends on who is contractor but when on Parks Citylink coaches I suspect you get the young bloods who haven't calmed down enough to drive on a tour. Had to report a couple for dangerous behaviour when driving and me a passenger!. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9903#post-107306 Tue, 09 Apr 2013 23:10:26 +0000 Coxy 107306@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>You can also tell when a City Link bus is approaching on Princes Street by the roaring engine just before it flies past at 40mph. Perhaps it's a 'safety feature'. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9903#post-107304 Tue, 09 Apr 2013 22:27:41 +0000 sg37409 107304@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>city link are the worst in my experience. Dont know why but they all seem to drive aggressively. All of them. They'll kill someone.</p> <p>Dont like megabus, stagecoach or airport express in that order.</p> <p>lothian buses are chalk and chees in comparison. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9903#post-107301 Tue, 09 Apr 2013 21:50:14 +0000 slowcoach 107301@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Stagecoach is to introduce the UK's first in-house cycle awareness programme for bus drivers."<br /> <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-22079941" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-22079941</a><br /> Maybe they've got a time machine and are going back before LB started training? </p>