http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: WoL path work en Tue, 19 May 2026 04:45:18 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955&page=2#post-280690 Fri, 20 Apr 2018 19:42:25 +0000 gembo 280690@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The ultitrec work from Currie to Balerno is finished. Similar to canal towpath it looked better last week before the chippings were put on top. It is springy, a little cambered, quite bumpy. There is a sign up for equestrians to ignore or read. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955&page=2#post-111006 Sat, 18 May 2013 09:32:48 +0000 wingpig 111006@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>"...but I could be making this up."</em></blockquote></p> <p>I wouldn't put it past continental utilities maintainers to correspond and co-ordinate. Over here the very idea was once parodied for some sort of telly advert.</p> <p> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rFaoHf1lrI&amp;feature=youtube_gdata_player" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rFaoHf1lrI&amp;feature=youtube_gdata_player</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955&page=2#post-111005 Sat, 18 May 2013 09:13:16 +0000 gembo 111005@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hey The Buddster, as the road is closed for power cables, why not fix the surface at the same time? Radical I know but Iheard once that in Germany all the utilities talk to each other and work coincides, but I could be making this up. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955&page=2#post-110964 Fri, 17 May 2013 20:49:58 +0000 chdot 110964@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>RAVELRIG ROAD Junction with Long Dalmahoy Road &amp; Railway Bridge Scottish Power - planned works 13th - 19th</p> <p>LOTS more here -</p> <p><a href="http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/download/downloads/id/10479/road_and_events_report_15_05_13_updated_15_00pm" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/download/downloads/id/10479/road_and_events_report_15_05_13_updated_15_00pm</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955&page=2#post-110946 Fri, 17 May 2013 19:32:24 +0000 gembo 110946@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Fimm, still closed. Cannot say yet if for repairs or relaying of railway as both are going on just now.</p> <p>Went down and up WoL path today, the new bits dry. Bit bumpy at juni green. The old bits some mud but on the whole a joy compared to the towpath </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955&page=2#post-110802 Fri, 17 May 2013 08:42:20 +0000 fimm 110802@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@gembo, I assumed the Ravelrig Road closure was for repairs? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955&page=2#post-110750 Thu, 16 May 2013 19:28:29 +0000 gembo 110750@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Dave<br /> Last time the boulder in the middle was put back by the digger, it slipped a little from the palette causing the narrower gap.</p> <p>On related matter ravelrig road now closed either for repairs or for rail track renewal </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955&page=2#post-110613 Wed, 15 May 2013 12:03:53 +0000 Dave 110613@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I don't think it will last very long, it reminds me of the brake humps you get at Glentress before corners on new bits of trail. </p> <p>However... it's better than nothing (although still not good enough to persuade my better half to use the WoL instead of the roads).</p> <p>[edited to add] cross-post and great minds think alike :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955&page=2#post-110612 Wed, 15 May 2013 11:54:44 +0000 allebong 110612@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The resurfaced sections are much better than they were, but as steveo notes, there's a problem developing. There's a basically continuous sine-wave pattern of peaks and troughs appearing. Probably 4-5cm deep tops, and you don't notice them that much at lower speed. At higher speed though (ie coming down from Balerno) it becomes really noticeable. To me it looks like the braking bumps you can find on any mtb track - somebody brakes hard and creates a dip, then the next person has to brake just before that dip, and on it goes. There's a cracking example of this near the Balerno exit, at the point where a road comes down from the right to a house (looking towards Balerno) and there's a sharp edge onto the driveway. There's several meters of near perfect sinusoidal bumps leading up to the edge. I'm not convinced that this is what's happening on the new sections though. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955&page=2#post-110595 Wed, 15 May 2013 10:56:53 +0000 steveo 110595@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I went down this way on the mtb last week, I don't know what they've done to the surface but its not smooth, its like a micro mogul course and I found it quite tiring after a while. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955&page=2#post-110591 Wed, 15 May 2013 10:55:27 +0000 Dave 110591@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've been using this a bit (not too much, as without a rear mudguard it's extremely unpleasant) but have to admit it's a great improvement in parts. Thumbs up!</p> <p>I don't suppose someone could arrange for the middle of the three boulders (the one which is sitting on a palette) by Juniper Green to be configured such that a child trailer can fit through? </p> <p>At the moment it's too narrow on both sides and there's no way around on the verges. I can probably access a palette lifter but getting it out to WoL and back would be an epic faff. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955&page=2#post-109738 Mon, 06 May 2013 22:04:08 +0000 gembo 109738@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Random crater I should say was filled in with Gray stones up near currie but this had not stood up to the day of rain on Friday and had become a puddle. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955&page=2#post-109723 Mon, 06 May 2013 16:24:41 +0000 TheBuddster 109723@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks for the feedback, I'll pass it on to the Ranger Service.</p> <p>Whereabouts was the <blockquote>random crater</blockquote>? I can pass that on too. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955&page=2#post-109563 Fri, 03 May 2013 19:04:50 +0000 gembo 109563@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Stonking ride this morning all the way down WoL path, smooth and dry. Could have done with two further dry days but not to be. Home tonight error going up it as slog. New repair bits bearing up except one random crater up towards currie. Other bits thataren't bad were a bit water logged. Anyway tuff gonged it home </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955&page=2#post-109401 Thu, 02 May 2013 09:49:27 +0000 AKen 109401@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Diverted up the WoL path on the way home yesterday evening. Impressed with how the surface has been improved. I agree with some of the comments above that the drainage ditches could have been deeper but I suppose the real test will be how the surface copes with a couple of wet winters (or summers!) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955&page=2#post-109279 Tue, 30 Apr 2013 22:21:21 +0000 gembo 109279@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes dave they heard you were moving to currie and have suddenly started fixing the surface in a big way after several years of small repairs. Not sure how it will bear up to persistent rain but good just now. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955&page=2#post-109278 Tue, 30 Apr 2013 22:15:11 +0000 Dave 109278@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sounds promising. The wife hasn't been looking forward to the impatience and squeezing past that is to be 'enjoyed' on Gillespie Rd at the hands of Edinburgh's finest motorists, but the alternative (Woodhall Rd on the far side of the WoL) is not without its own short stretch of surface failure. </p> <p>If the WoL has been lastingly improved, I think she might be amenable to trying it again. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955&page=2#post-109272 Tue, 30 Apr 2013 20:30:09 +0000 gembo 109272@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Another short stretch of improvement rolled out yesterday. Think the bumpy bit will be completed this week so if stays dry it will be back to the way it was when I used it every day to go to leith and back. Smooth and dry. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955&page=2#post-109153 Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:26:28 +0000 SRD 109153@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Polwarth family cycle on the 23rd, with storytelling and stoneskipping! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955&page=2#post-109152 Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:24:13 +0000 chdot 109152@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>By the way, the BIG test will be when Sciennes School goes to Spylaw Park on June 21st. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955&page=2#post-109150 Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:22:31 +0000 chdot 109150@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"but more whin dust?"</p> <p>Probably not - certainly not the fine stuff. </p> <p>"The drainage looks like it could fill up quickly"</p> <p>See -</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955#post-108205" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955#post-108205</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955&page=2#post-109149 Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:19:38 +0000 gembo 109149@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@the Buddster</p> <p>Pretty good I'd say, has soaked up fair bit of rain, the steam road roller was out this morning,<br /> Bit at the housing association getting there.</p> <p>The exit heading east from the tunnel, still a bit soggy. This was clay all last summer so better already but more whin dust?</p> <p> The drainage looks like it could fill up quickly </p> <p>On the whole a good effort. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955#post-109124 Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:05:27 +0000 TheBuddster 109124@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hi,</p> <p>I've been off the last week so sorry I haven't been on. </p> <p>So whats the verdict on the path so far then? Good or bad? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955#post-108310 Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:00:12 +0000 gembo 108310@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Path was good to use today, fairly dry. Couple of patches of stone infill near currie kirk bit rough on skinnier tyres. The worst section at juniper green where the housing association flats are being built has been stripped down to a bumpy hardcore awaiting covering. The mud section east of the tunnel has been replaced with a red stone, then red gravel then whindust topping.</p> <p>Go the rangers</p> <p>Obviously the park rangers not the third division football side </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955#post-108205 Mon, 22 Apr 2013 08:41:40 +0000 Tulyar 108205@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Drainage-wise - clearly not bold enough with the mattocks (or mini excavator). Basically think of a size and double it and you should be about right!</p> <p>Cross-drains in 6" perforated land drain - vulnerable - use 12" pipe and make it easy to clean out from downstream side, and hard to block upstream.</p> <p>Chris's pic the water in severe conditions has already been flowing over the path at damaging speed/volume right to the centre, and may soon find a weak/low spot to cut over and drain down to the WoL. No ditch seems to have been dug at all and a cross-drain about where photo taken might be a good idea. I suspect that the uphill side closes in just past photo point so the material washed down will build up and deflect the water seriously on to the path?</p> <p>Drybound paths can be long lasting and economical to build &amp; maintain - especially where movement would crack up tarmac - but water can destroy them if not properly managed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955#post-108202 Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:18:18 +0000 gembo 108202@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Will try this morning </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955#post-108200 Mon, 22 Apr 2013 00:31:32 +0000 chdot 108200@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Had a look today. </p> <p>Several different sections resurfaced - not just just below the tunnel. </p> <p>Looks good, not too much dust (or too fine).</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/8668002687/"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8386/8668002687_f210388c7e.jpg"></a><br /> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/8668002687/">new surface</a> </p> <p>Less impressed by the drainage cuts. </p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/8668012201/"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8385/8668012201_1cff463ea9.jpg"></a></p> <p>We'll see... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955#post-108030 Fri, 19 Apr 2013 08:59:39 +0000 Tulyar 108030@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Actually drybound roads in many parts of the world are used by motor vehicles - and those not used to driving on them think that the plume of dust trailing behind the car as you speed along is impressive ... it is actually both damaging and dangerously stupid. The plume of dust is like water spray on a wet road, and the driver is travelling on a fluidised film of dust - in effect aquaplaning in the dry. As a result, the car loses all grip on the road and crashes are the result. </p> <p>Drybound main roads are often very wide - for 2 key reasons. First this allows the regular regrading to take place in one 'lane' whilst the traffic drives around the grader, and second it allows the protocol of pulling over to the nearside, when you pass someone coming the other way, to minimise the risk of throwing up a stone through their windscreen and vice verse. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955#post-108028 Fri, 19 Apr 2013 07:48:13 +0000 fimm 108028@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Interesting post Tulyar. I'm glad it should not be the same use of whin dust as caused problems before. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9955#post-108026 Fri, 19 Apr 2013 07:17:33 +0000 gembo 108026@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@tulyar, the Buddster could do worse than pass this detailed info to the rangers</p> <p>@charterhall, did you see the panorama holiday in North Korea prog? They are using whindust as coffee in Pyongyang now. </p>