And was the shed attired in bright colours?
If not, then honestly, what did it expect?
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Posted 9 years ago #
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Shed was neither wearing a helmet nor in hi vis. In fairness, I don't think it was taking primary either.
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Gotta watch out for these purple Peugeots. They're a bit deranged:
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Fiesta won't do it again.
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"It is not yet clear how the crash happened"
Got to be the shop's fault
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This time, I'm pleased to see the shop was attired in bright colours but horrified to see it wasn't wearing a helmet. Clearly an accident waiting to happen and the shop owner needs to take partial responsibility, not the hard pressed motorist.
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Does this qualify ?
http://www.marketing-mixtape.com/tag/ford-ka/
Is that car on a road or a pedestrian precinct ?
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Yet another one. This time the evil car drove itself into a pub.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-28638543
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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-29831956
a car hit another vehicle while joining the A1 from a slip road, which caused it to hit another car...
...The third car then hit a van, which spun out of control and into a ditch
Notice that the police are still using the word 'accident'
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The car would have been heading into town on the Queensferry Road, and has ended up facing the wrong way and by the looks of it, demolishing some of the pedestrian island.
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The car that mounted a pavement in Glasgow and killed...
...died after she was struck by a black Vauxhall Astra which mounted the path
The car struck the pedestrians in Sandbank Street at about 19:40 then made off...
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-30074463
Utterly despicable the language used in this article.
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His Fiat Panda went into the back of Mrs Brook's bike.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-30115385
Amazing what you see when you start reading these things closely. A car and a bicycle in a passive voice impersonal collision.
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Check the photo of CCEers.
That was a strange day - poignant and effective event.
http://pedalonparliament.org/cyclist-memorial-installed-at-holyrood
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Now cars are part of the community.
"Car reverses into neighbour's house"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-30113085
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Heehee
The BBC did actually own up to a driver being part of the cause and effect in a beautiful line
"He was driving a Volkswagen Tiguan when he hit a house across the road from his own."
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It's a sobering thought that this minor shunt has done damage that would take me a whole morning with a sledge hammer. All motorsits should be made to push a car uphill to understand the amount of kinetic energy they're in charge of.
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From the chip wrapper (the whole story, no need for a linky):
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Bin lorry left hanging off Hawes Pier after crash
Police are appealing for witnesses after a bin lorry left the road and ended up hanging off Hawes Pier in South Queensferry on Saturday.
The accident happened around 1.15pm when the refuse lorry crossed the road and came to rest on the pier with one of its front wheels hanging over the edge.
The driver was taken to hospital but his condition is not known.
The road was closed following the accident between Hawes Brae and The Loan, resulting in a diversion through Dalmeny.
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Bit more than just the front wheels!
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Killer bin lorry, in fact.
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Nasty...
A bin lorry driver has died after being crushed by his own truck when he tried to stop it rolling out of a car park. The 58-year-old man was pinned against a wall by the lorry in South Queensferry, near Edinburgh, on Saturday afternoon. The vehicle then hit a parked car and mounted a pavement before coming to rest on the edge of Hawes Pier. The man was taken to hospital but later died.Posted 9 years ago # -
Am I the only one thinking that the above 3 posts (plus this one ?) should be removed from this thread ?
Events have moved on and facts have emerged since Crowriver made his post.
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Yes, that is very nasty, and since the driver has died I would prefer we did not make light of it. It was not at all clear from the initial reports what had taken place.
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Why should we conceal the fact that a man has died, and the press just treat it as if it was an 'accident' and it was the lorry itself that caused it?
The Health & Safety at Work act should apply.
It's tragic a man has died - doesn't his family deserve a proper investigation? What about all the pedestrians that 'nearly died' (but didn't because by chance they were a few yards away)?
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Nothing has been said here that is not already in the public domain, nothing disrespectful.
The zeal of self-censorship can go too far.Posted 9 years ago # -
@edd1e_h
The Health and Safety at Work Act will apply.
Do you have any information why it wouldn't ?
Any information why his family won't get a proper investigation ?
Any information to prove that it was not caused by the lorry ?
Thought not.
Until an investigation has been completed nobody knows exactly what happened
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@le_soigneur
This thread is full of reports of vehicles involved in incidents which according to the press seem to behave like sentient beings.
In the incident at South Queensferry the now deceased driver was not in the vehicle. See the difference ? The singular press report was accurate. Do you still think it's not disrespectful to include this fatality in this thread ?
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I have posted in this thread on modern drive-by-wire vehicles having sentient properties (search) as well as ones due to operator error, and nobody objected when I posted about the state trooper in the Toyota Camry who was the deceased when the car had a UA so he was not at fault.
A fully loaded 4 ton truck on the steep ramps of the Hawes Inn car park can have the same runaway properties whether actively driven or not. The title of the thread is objective and this incident belongs here. There is no difference, it could be the Toyota Camry story I posted that nobody censored.
Nobody here is making light of it. It is a public interest story, there are multiple press reports, there is no disrespect of the victim. You can choose to lurk or ignore this thread but there is no reason to impose your decision on everyone else. The admins are quite good at making these judgement calls should it degenerate.Posted 9 years ago # -
We learn more. If the vehicle is actually used as a weapon, it appears to no longer be sentient;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-30225298
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@le_soigneur
A few days have passed and I accept that I may have made a mountain out of a molehill.
The result for / against removal of the posts was 2 - 2.
Not decisive either way but as I said I accept that there is no need to remove them.
I would ask you again to read what I posted as I "asked a question" which is completely different to "zeal for self-censorship" and certainly was not "impose your decision on everyone else" which you seem to accuse me of.
My point was unlike your US example this was close to home and after the original post events / facts have changed.
Given the recent Phil Hughes coverage, there is no need to remove the posts unless someone has a valid specific reason.
Posted 9 years ago # -
"
Curses, foiled again (@bigwows)
28/11/2014 10:03
On an #EdinburghTram which just got skelped by a First bus north of Palmerston Place. Going to be late for work but thankfully no injuries."
OR
"
Jon Clark (@guitarjonnie)
28/11/2014 10:01
Tram just bumped into a bus just off Haymarket, now blocking the road #edinburgh #trams"
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