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Burnshot flyover

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  • Started 7 years ago by fiefster
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  1. stiltskin
    Member

    Apparently there are signs up saying Bridge to be closed to all traffic from 8th May. Let's hope there is a date for them to fix it.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    With a signed diversion?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. gembo
    Member

    Edinburgh bike co-op tracking progress of dead badger on burn shot flyover

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. stiltskin
    Member

    Out of interest. Who,is responsible for the maintenance of the flyover?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. HankChief
    Member

    From other thread

    The update they had on the bridge was that it misses being a trunk road by about 50m (I thought it was much more) and so Transport Scotland are forcing the Council to foot the entire repair bill. If it needs replaced it will run to millions which along with North Bridge could take a significant chunk of the transport budget.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. HankChief
    Member

    CEC have just tweeted that it will be fenced off from Monday :-(

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. Stickman
    Member

    "For safety reasons, Burnshot Bridge will be fenced off to pedestrians + cyclists from Mon 8 May. We apologise for any inconvenience."

    https://mobile.twitter.com/edinburgh_cc/status/860203630867230728

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. Blueth
    Member

    Can't be very compelling safety reasons if it can wait until Monday?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. HankChief
    Member

    How long after the Almond Ward councillors are announced should we wait before raising this with them?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    How long do you need...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  11. HankChief
    Member

    Well, if the barriers are going in on Monday, then they'll need to get on it sharpish

    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

    Think it might be overoptimisticing power of councillors to act/effect quickly.

    Obviously need to raise issue(s) inc 'signed alternative' and 'how long will it take', but might be best to see what (if anything) happens on Monday.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Ian Swanson (@ianswansonen)
    05/05/2017, 09:43
    Lib Dems say candidate Kevin Lang has got over 50% in Almond ward, seem confident his sister Louise Young will also be elected. #edincount

    http://pic.twitter.com/jbmL0tZBpb

    "

    http://walkcyclevote.scot/candidate-info/?cons=S13002919

    Posted 6 years ago #
  14. SRD
    Moderator

    would think this would have very negative effect on Craigie's - don't quite a lot of cyclists stop there for coffee? might eb worth seeing if you can get them on side. 'local business' likely to generate some action from councillors.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  15. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Are there any counts for how many cyclists use(d) the Burnshot bridge each day?

    It's not beyond the wit of man to install a temporary structure alongside to continue the passage of non-motorised users.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

    Almond councillors

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17700

    Posted 6 years ago #
  17. acsimpson
    Member

    Arellcat, far simpler than that would be the installation of a temporary path adjacent to the slip road going as far down as the existing underpass.

    I have tweeted to ask if that's possible and also why there is a perceived to be such a huge danger to those on top of the bridge but not any to those underneath it.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  18. HankChief
    Member

    I've tweeted the returning Cllr

    tweet

    Posted 6 years ago #
  19. Arellcat
    Moderator

    My feeling is that the underpass is more equality than equity.

    It looks pretty uninviting to me, with that bollard and no dropped kerb.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  20. Ed1
    Member

    http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/equityDiversityInclusion/2015/12/is-equity-the-same-as-equality/

    So cycling on the motorway is equality and cycling in a cycle lane is equity as long as its not rubbish

    Posted 6 years ago #
  21. HankChief
    Member

    The new LibDem Cllr has said he will follow up. Let's see what the new Cllrs are like...

    https://twitter.com/kevin_lang/status/860849691013115904

    Posted 6 years ago #
  22. Rosie
    Member

    would think this would have very negative effect on Craigie's - don't quite a lot of cyclists stop there for coffee? might eb worth seeing if you can get them on side. 'local business' likely to generate some action from councillors.

    Craigie's are cycling supporters. They gave a hamper for a prize in Spokes's last competition.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  23. HankChief
    Member

    CEC have come back saying Standingstane Rd will be the diversion (adding 1.5miles to everyone's journey)...

    https://twitter.com/Edinburgh_CC/status/861553332539858944

    Posted 6 years ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Edinburgh Council (@Edinburgh_CC)
    08/05/2017, 3:10 pm
    @hank_chief @CyclingEdin @SpokesLothian Apologies - the closure is signposted but the diversion is not yet signed, though will be imminently. Will update when installed

    "

    Why am I not surprised?

    How long have they had to plan for this?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Unnamed Road - Almond

    Burnshot flyover at A90 City of Edinburgh Council

    Unsafe bridge.

    Flyover closed to all traffic (including cyclists and pedestrians). Slip roads remain open, no restrictions between Kirkliston and *northbound* A90.

    28-Nov-2016 00:01

    17-Jul-2018 23:59

    "

    http://edinburgh.cdmf.info/public/disruptions/list.htm

    So, it's officially been shut since November and will be for more than a year.

    But it won't fall down on the road/traffic underneath(?)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    So 'closed' the day after this inspection -

    "

    Edintravel
    27 November 2016 · Edinburgh ·
    Repairs to Burnshot bridge on the A90 today (Sunday 27th November). Traffic will be diverted off the A90 carriageway via Burnshot off- and on-slips. Please allow plenty of extra travel time.
    #edintravel

    "

    But previously singled to reduce loading -

    And now CEC doesn't know/understand nearby option.

    "

    Edinburgh Council (@Edinburgh_CC)
    08/05/2017, 16:32
    @talloplanic @hank_chief @CyclingEdin @SpokesLothian it would be required to pass through MOD land and this is not possible. Thanks

    "

    https://twitter.com/edinburgh_cc/status/861604755986141185

    https://twitter.com/hank_chief/status/861606616025772032

    Posted 6 years ago #
  27. crowriver
    Member

    Has anyone actually tried cycling using the underpass then the 'hard shoulder' / bus lane / slip road to Burnshot Road?

    Presume it's not illegal, but maybe only for 'brave' road hardened cyclists? (Audaxers have been known to hammer down busy A roads like this on occasion).

    Posted 6 years ago #
  28. chdot
    Admin

    "Has anyone actually tried cycling using the underpass then the 'hard shoulder' / bus lane / slip road to Burnshot Road?"

    Plenty of times, all they way from Barnton too.

    It's a busy road at times but wide and only 40mph.

    Issue is more about walking, and cycling the other way.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  29. gibbo
    Member

    14 months of an extra 1.5 miles. Not just 1.5 miles, but 1.5miles of well below substandard road surface.

    Tell me more about CEC's commitment to cycling...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  30. crowriver
    Member

    "Issue is more about walking, and cycling the other way."

    Aye, bit of a pain that. Presumably not *that* many pedestrians using Burnshot Road anyway?

    Cycling the other way (eastwards?) is there not a railway path from Dalmeny south to somewhere near the A8? Can't recall if it's surfaced properly, or the condition. There's also a quiet road somewhere west of the airport too that links to the A8 I think? (Just checked) Yep. Standingstane Road, Burnshot Road west, B800 from Kirkliston, then Lochend Road to link up with A8 path east of that mahoosive roundabout and silly pedestrian bridge thing. Of course that doesn't really help if you're trying to get to, say Leith or north Edinburgh, and the A8 path has its own issues, but maybe an alternative for some?

    Posted 6 years ago #

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