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resolvedNote that I have the "advantage" that I enjoy hill walking and running - all my Pentlands tiles have been collected while running (there are some I've mountainbiked through as well, of course).
I fancy a Round of Baddingsgill Reservoir which will give me a bunch of new tiles - there's usually a race on the route, though I don't suppose it will be running this year...
I have joined in though my current 6x6 should be easy to capitalise on, I now realise the grave error of not recording my track when I did a walk in the trackless far west of the pentlands.
I think that might be my target for the next 12 months, can I "complete" the pentlands.
Kenny, what bike are you riding? I don't recall any squares in my 13x13 which I had to walk to get to. 14x14 is different though as it will go deep into the Pentlands.
Normally a Cervélo but for the trickier ones it would be a CX albeit still with slick tyres on it. I am considering resurrecting a MTB which has lived in a shed for 4 years and is not functional right now. Probably taking it in to Bicycle Works on Monday next week to see whether it's salvageable.
In terms of tiles, firstly my activity map is here:
https://veloviewer.com/athlete/554850/activities
The one which has Black Hill in it, which is 2 tiles north of West and East Kip, that doesn't look possible on a bike with slick tyres. Any further south look like they'd need a walk over the Pentlands, which is fine, I will aim to do a couple of them while summer is still here.
Then there's one south of Cauldhall Moor, which is 2 squares east of Howgate. Again, a bit of a walk to get to that one, I'd guess?
I can't see your map, Kenny, can you see mine?
https://veloviewer.com/athlete/551789/activities
The one which has Black Hill in it, which is 2 tiles north of West and East Kip, that doesn't look possible on a bike with slick tyres.
Then there's one south of Cauldhall Moor, which is 2 squares east of Howgate.
I can see your map just fine, fimm... hmm, I wonder if there's some kind of privacy setting that I need to tweak?
I think the nearest you'd get a slick-tyred bike would be the little dam at "Black Springs", just to the north of the square.
Yeah, I just assumed I'd have around a mile of walking to get to there. I've not really been up that area more than a couple of times though, so maybe some of the paths are better than I'm expecting.
If that's the one between Cockmuir and Toxside, then you can get that on an easy track from Cockmuir. That's one of the ones mentioned in my post upthread.
Struggling to find either of those places!
The "Share my data with anyone" option is on the update page.
The "Share my data with anyone" option is on the update page.
Bingo, hadn't ever spotted that before as the Options tend to stay hidden. Updated, should be viewable now. Thanks, @Frenchy
Yes, I can see your activities now.
Struggling to find either [Cockmuir or Toxside]
Struggling to find either of those places!
You just need a Midlothian Spokes map. :-)
I cycled the A6094 from Rosewell to Howgate yesterday, but haven't yet done the minor road past the moor to Mount Lothian and beyond. The A6094 is hard work going west into the wind. And in any case, I'd left my Garmin at home because I'd sort of planned to bimble along the railway path to Penicuik, but exploring instead got the better of me.
That's because I was talking about the wrong square. Oddly enough, I seem to have got the square I think you are talking about simply by cycling along the road that goes from Mount Lothian past Cauldhall Moor. And a very pleasant road it is, too. (This leaves me wondering if we are talking about the same square...)
Goodness, I hadn't spotted that road. Yep, that is no longer a square that concerns me! I shall venture that way soon. Thanks!
I am going for a short wander after lunch to get that one square at Black Hill which, if I'm not mistaken, will take me from 10x10 to 12x12 in one go. Unless I've missed something.
Just a quick privacy word of warning. Veloviewer doesn't use your Strava privacy zones. Which means that if you have strava setup to exclude your work and home areas they become visible on Veloviewer.
I know that this isn't a problem for everyone but it does stop me making my veloviewer data public.
@acsimpson - Exclusion zones seem to be carried over fine for me.
Frenchy, that's strange. When I look at your profile I can see a nice curve at your local cross roads which would be the edge of your zone. However when I set mine to be public and look at it in another browser then I see a large collection rides ending at my back door. I shall have to investigate further.
Are those rides which don't begin or end at your house? i.e., you went home in the middle?
If so, Strava doesn't exclude those - it only looks at the start and end of each ride.
acsimpson thank you for that, I was wondering about it myself. I'd be interested in what people can see on mine, if anyone has a couple on minutes to investigate... I have fairly large privacy zones set on Strava. (Mostly because I'm paranoid.)
@fimm - Based on my own data, I suspect what's visible to everyone else on Veloviewer is the same as what's visible to you.
For you - I can see a lot of tracks which end suddenly at the edge of a circle, which suggests the exclusion zone is working. However, there are quite a few where you seem to have gone home in the middle of a journey, and I can have a pretty good guess at where you live from those.
Can PM you screenshots, or links to tracks which do this, if you want?
EDIT: Same for your office.
Privacy zones do seem a bit dodgy for sure.
I finally got myself to 13x13 (had 20 different 12 x 12, 16 South of the Forth and 4 North) by picking up a tile to the SE of West Calder this morning.
Now I need to pick the tile to the N of East Cairn Hill Summit to get to 14x14.
Still looking at getting a canoe to deal with Loch Leven, and/or a sea-going kayak to deal with the Forth to the W of the bridges.
@frenchy looking at my own VV activity map, I can see many tracks up my street. I don't think these are explained by popping home in the middle of a journey.
I've also have a lot of those straight line gps accidents, which unfortunately don't seem to pick up squares.
I've been going up to Cockmuir way quite a lot recently. It's a nice quite road with great views that easily fits into my regular loops around Gladhouse way. There's some nice walks around Toxside Moss - good plant life around the plantations.
@amir: Interesting - can you check some of those tracks and see if there's some other explanation?
my strava has been private for a long time, i get into too many tussles on the road to be comfortable making it public
but even so, i dont start or stop garmin anywhere near my house
its a good habit to pick an arbitrary spot to do it, and stick to that
@frenchy which tracks? The ones at my house or the straight ones?
The ones at your house.
There are hundreds so I expects it's nearly all of them. And I do have exclusion zones there and other places
Looking more closely at my own data it appears that the privacy zone hasn't been applied to some older activities by Strava. The ends are visible to others in Strava as well as Veloviewer so it appears to be a Strava issue. The trouble with Veloviewer is that it allows 3rd party access to your entire activity database at once based solely on your public athlete number.
For instance anyone who sees you on a flyby can go and see if you have public data on Veloviewer and if they do they can analyse patterns in your rides very simply in a way that Strava make difficult.
I wouldn't mind anyone seeing my heatmap but veloviewer is just too granular for my liking.
Well acsimpson pm'd me the correct street and block number, so I've now turned off the "Share my data with anyone" option on Veloviewer!
On the YACF thread linked above people tend to take a screenshot and post that - now I understand why...
It is interesting, because I don't think I do many journeys where I go home in the middle, and I've always assumed that given I live in an area of tenements it wouldn't be possible to work out which one, at least from Strava. The office is more tricky to hide as there are not many offices on the site.
Thank you for the various comments.
I used a week's staycation to go on a series of short rides, filling a lot of gaps, essentially completing all the gaps between East Wemyss and Newburgh. Involved a lot of gravel and some hike-a-bike. Also got some spare tiles down South of West Calder.
This means 13x13 square south of the Forth, 3 North of it , and best of all reached a cluster size of 1002 with a couple of walks around Dollar today.
@Fimm, it's a shame you can't restrict veloviewer's data sharing at a more granular level. I have no issue with people seeing the shape of my cluster or even the majority of my heatmap but letting them easily browse through every single ride I've recorded is just too much for me.
@Paddyirish, That sound like fun. As you know I spent my holiday in Coldingham. As well as not seeing you on the beach I extended my cluster down to the border at the Union Bridge. One ride was a zig zag down the lovely country lanes from Eyemouth to the border while the other involved a crossing of the wonderfully remote Coldingham law. Then pushing up parts of the southern upland way.
@acsimpson, I have made my data unavailable as well. Maybe we ask for an option to hide rides, but show max squares / clusters.
Great effort on reaching the border- you are the first I know of to have done that from Edinburgh. A friend who is sadly no longer with us had a cluster of 1800+ and was trying to work out a route, but never managed it.
As far as I can tell Cockburnspath is the nearest you can get to the border without heading off road. Getting to the border wasn't on my list of aims for the year but I'm pretty please to be there.
It's a very inefficient way to expand a cluster though. You have a cluster which is about 300 squares larger than mine having visited a very similar number of tiles.
This is all a bit arcane for me.
Can someone explain “You have a cluster which is about 300 squares larger than mine having visited a very similar number of tiles” please.
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