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Newbridge - Kirkliston - Dalmeny Railway Path

(47 posts)
  • Started 12 years ago by Bhachgen
  • Latest reply from CycleAlex

  1. chdot
    Admin

    @Flatwhite, CEC says -

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    CTC have made representations about maintaining the link and we will also be giving our views in support of this. My understanding is that the design is at a relatively early stage and that they would need to ensure that right's of way are maintained.

    "

    Posted 12 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    "Worth mentioning that apparently the planned new rail lines, the Almond (or Dalmeny) Chord, will mean that Standingstane Road will be realigned onto the cycle track through the cutting under the Milton Road bridge. "

    Not any more -

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    A crucial piece of extra track – known as the “Dalmeny chord” – to allow trains from Glasgow to call at the Gateway station will no longer be built.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/chaos-for-edinburgh-glasgow-rail-commuters-1-3137329

    Posted 10 years ago #
  3. cb
    Member

    "
    The Winchburgh tunnel in West Lothian is being closed as part of the £750 million electrification of the line to enable faster and longer trains to run.

    During the work, journeys are expected to take up to 50 per cent longer than normal because trains will be diverted via Dalmeny, beside the Forth Bridge, then have to reverse on to another line.
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    Rail campaigners said a new section of track – the “Almond Chord”, enabling trains to run via Dalmeny without reversing – should have been built first
    "

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-glasgow-trains-face-summer-of-disruption-1-3651902

    Posted 9 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    "should have been built first"

    Presume still no plan to build?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  5. cb
    Member

    "Presume still no plan to build?"

    From the article (my bold):

    "Roderick McDougall, vice-chair of independent campaigners Railfuture (Scotland), said: “We deprecate [Scottish Government agency] Transport Scotland’s insistence in closing the Winchburgh tunnel, causing major disruption to passengers both on the main Glasgow to Edinburgh route and the Stirling to Edinburgh, before constructing the Almond Chord, particularly as they have admitted that it is still intended to build it."

    Posted 9 years ago #
  6. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Wonder if there will be more capacity (more or longer trains) or faster (i.e. less stops) services run along the Airdrie-Bathgate route during this time? No? Of course not, that would be sensible...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  7. richardlmpearson
    Member

    It would be good if they stopped at Dalmeny and you could get a direct train to Glasgow from Dalmeny.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  8. Morningsider
    Member

    cb - my understanding is that the Dalmeny Chord has been kicked into the very long grass of EGIP phase 2. Phase 2 is currently unfunded and due to be delivered from 2025 onwards. If it is going to be built (a big if, in my opinion) then you are looking at it opening around 2030 at the earliest.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  9. fimm
    Member

    There are already 4 trains per hour, two faster and two slower, on the Airdrie - Bathgate line. I have no idea if it would be possible to squeeze any more in.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  10. DaveC
    Member

    There is a morning train from Dalmeny to Glasgow. It comes from further up the line and calls at Dalgety Bay also. I was told the maximum numbr of trains an hour over the Forth Bridge is 22. I wonder if the number of trains running over to fife will be reduced to cater for these trains having to 'turn around' in Dalmeny?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  11. LaidBack
    Member

    Crazy that this loop hasn't been sorted. Line capacity is maxed out and this would allow trains to go round delays. Travellers to Fife will have an extra bridge in the not distant future - improving the train route would cost a fraction...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  12. CycleAlex
    Member

    Does anyone happen to know what the surface of the path is like now? Or am I overly optimistic in thinking that it's been improved in the last 5/8 years?

    My friend and I were quite temped to cycle it having explored QR9 yesterday but we figured the middle of the night probably wasn't the ideal time to discover a new, seemingly unlit path.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  13. HankChief
    Member

    It'll be dry mud just now.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  14. Arellcat
    Moderator

    It was liquid mud back in January when I was in pursuit of a hat, but it's a nice path otherwise.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  15. wingpig
    Member

    In hot pursuit of a hat, or just normal?
    If it hasn't been trimmed since December it'll be a bit narrow if you encounter other users...

    Posted 3 years ago #
  16. gembo
    Member

    Was this the port Edgar hat? What was the end of that story?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  17. CycleAlex
    Member

    Thanks all, went for a ride to South Queensferry via NCN1 and back via the railway path and QR9. It was all rather pretty with the orange glow of the sunset in the background.

    The path was perfectly passable and an enjoyable ride. Only bit that seems like it could be a pain was a short section of dense tree cover where it was quite damp. Oh, and the rather low pipe across the path...

    Could definitely do with some signage though!

    Posted 3 years ago #

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