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Gogar Station Road - Resurfacing & Cycle friendly improvements?

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  1. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @Greenroofer

    I also noted that cyclists had run over and entirely flattened a hedgehog in the north-bound cycle lane at the first bridge over the Gogar Burn.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. Greenroofer
    Member

    Yes, and as that hedgehog had got steadily flatter and less coherent over the past few days I have been caused to wonder if Marathon Plus tyres are proof against hedgehog spines.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. neddie
    Member

    DEVELOPMENT CHANGES WITHIN THE GOGAR AREA

    Planning Application –ref no 16/04277/FUL - 1a Gogar Station Road

    Technologistics Ltd (also known as APC Overnight Delivery) site which was previously Hewden Plant Hire along past Autospares have lodged a planning application to change the current usage of their site from class 4/5 to class 6 storage and distribution. This planning application also includes an additional extension to their building and a variation to their trading hours that had already been restricted following a planning application in 2014. Due to the nature of Technologistics Ltd being a delivery business, since they have begun trading earlier this year, everyone has noticed a significant increase in articulated Lorries, HGV, Transit vans, causing safety issues for road users and especially cyclists. This application if granted could have a detrimental impact on the existing traffic problem on Gogar Station Road and the connecting roads in the surrounding area.

    Contrary to a statement dated 17 October 2016 on the planning department’s site – no neighbours have received notification and the closing date for lodging comments /objections is 11 November 2016.

    If you feel concerned about how this could impact on your quality of life and the Gogar area - then please lodge your comments/objections on the Edinburgh Council Planning Department website reference no – 16/04277/FUL comments must reach the Planning department by the 11 November ( it is very easy to do and your views and comments would be greatly appreciated).

    Further details/information please feel free to contact Gael Fisher email lapanini@aol.com or call <readacted> or Facebook “Save Gogar Hermiston Greenbelt “.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. HankChief
    Member

    Does anyone know if planning permission could be granted with traffic conditions attached?

    E.g. all (big) vehicles accessing the site have to travel to & from Hermiston to the South on the nice wide straight road and not on the narrow & wiggly GSR North of the site.

    That would seem a reasonable approach but would it be enforceable?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  5. sallyhinch
    Member

    @hankchief - I believe that is the way timber lorries operate - they are given a route which they have to stick to or lose the contract for that particular job, but I don't know where the authority for that comes from or whether you could do it in something like a construction site

    Posted 7 years ago #
  6. sallyhinch
    Member

    As always, London seems to have its own powers https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/deliveries-in-london/delivering-legally/accessible-roads-for-hgvs

    Posted 7 years ago #
  7. Morningsider
    Member

    HankChief - planning conditions are not normally used to control HGV routing, as set out in paragraph 63 of Planning Circular 4/1998:

    http://www.gov.scot/Publications/1998/02/circular-4-1998/circular-4-1998-develop

    Posted 7 years ago #
  8. acsimpson
    Member

    I assume it's ongoing traffic you're concerned about rather thsn construction traffic. I'm not sure if delivery depots have any licencing, although I assume not. If they did presumably a condition could be attached to the licence. Otherwise the only option would be a weight/size/HGV restriction on part of the road (I assume that's possible).

    Posted 7 years ago #
  9. HankChief
    Member

    Yeah. The construction seems pretty minor, but its the change of business class to distribution that increases the traffic flow on the road that has the potential for issues.

    Others use the road more than me so it'll be good to get their views.

    A weight restriction could be the answer although I've only ever seen good driving by the huge Dalton lorries so maybe unfair on them.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  10. Morningsider
    Member

    HankChief - you could raise concerns with the Traffic Commissioner, who licenses goods vehicle operators. It is likely that the depot will be an "operating centre" and its use may have conditions attached, such as hours of operation and the number of vehicles allowed to park there.

    Contact details at (need to scroll down a bit):

    https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/traffic-commissioners

    Posted 7 years ago #
  11. HankChief
    Member

    Thanks Morningsider.

    That might be the best way to go. I have no strong views against the warehouse being used productively, only the impact of additional (especially HGV) traffic on the narrow bit of GSR.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  12. HankChief
    Member

    Comments close tomorrow on the planning application...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  13. Greenroofer
    Member

    Lots of new painted pictures of bikes have appeared in the bike lanes along Gogar Station Road in the past couple of days. They are very decorative, although the bike lanes were already pretty visible. I'm not sure why there's been a sudden need to paint these when we've managed perfectly well without them for some years...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  14. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Perhaps there have been complaints of cyclists drifting into the car lanes?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  15. kaputnik
    Moderator

    We've just had a note round the office saying GSR is closed on the 3rd of October and to plan a different route.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  16. Greenroofer
    Member

    @kaputnik - yes according to the signs on the road it's closed all day (0600-2100) the whole way from outside RBS to just south of the railway bridge. I'm not disposed to discuss why it's closed, but would strongly support your point about finding a different route that day, rather than assuming that just because one is riding a bike one will be able to squeeze through regardless of the closure.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  17. acsimpson
    Member

  18. neddie
    Member

    Where are the pics of someone driving a lorry into a crowd of people? Get with the times people.

    Posted 6 years ago #

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