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  1. Rosie
    Member

    Bloke has nasty accident getting out of his van and tripping over a pothole. A chance to poke at the Council's cycling budget.

    "Conservative group leader Iain Whyte said: “Never mind spending millions on the tram completion project, we warned in February that ring-fencing ten per cent of the roads budget for cycling was ridiculous when Edinburgh’s roads were increasingly unfit for any users and that cyclists would benefit from properly-funded maintenance too. "

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/self-employed-dad-s-horror-pothole-injury-has-cancelled-christmas-1-4838233

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    Expect potholes if this has been washing away beneath the tarmac -

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/scottish-water-investigating-burst-water-main-in-princes-street-1-4855132

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. chdot
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  4. chdot
    Admin

    It was today revealed that Edinburgh had been named the pothole capital of Britain, based on data that showed the city ranked second highest in the UK in terms of potholes per kilometre.

    However, Edinburgh Council's Transport Convener, Lesley Macinnes, has now hit back at claims, describing them as "misleading" and estimating the number of potholes at closer to ten per km.

    https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/city-councils-transport-convener-hits-15646509

    Posted 4 years ago #
  5. gembo
    Member

    Would the city ranking first highest not be the capital??

    Posted 4 years ago #
  6. wishicouldgofaster
    Member

    I think that Lesley is talking absolute rubbish - almost every street that I cycle on has loads of potholes, splits, sunken drains or botched repairs (big tarmac lumps).

    Maybe she should cycle some of them as she would surely notice the state of the roads is making cycling more difficult.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  7. gembo
    Member

    Councillor Macinnes is out and about on her bicycle a fair bit.

    You can find lots of new tarmac mostly near but not in Edinburgh.

    I vote shut all streets to cars and lorries. Fix the potholes but don’t let the vehicles back in (unless under 3 metres in length)

    In Mallorca, the second a tiny crack appears it is filled instantly. That is EU for you.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  8. wishicouldgofaster
    Member

    If she does cycle she knows she is talking bs then unless her journey is completely on the rare item of a flat newly tarmac laid road :)

    Posted 4 years ago #
  9. gembo
    Member

    Ten potholes per kilometre one every hundred metres sounds about right?

    Or more right than a pothole every 13.69 metres. This is not Nam

    Posted 4 years ago #
  10. Blueth
    Member

    No? I can definitely hear the voice of Adrian Cronauer in my street, and those adjacent.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  11. acsimpson
    Member

    Define pothole? I suppose botched repairs and sunken manhole covers could be excluded.

    How closely linked do two defects have to be to become one pothole? Is the surface of the moon look such as at Barnton Shops one pothole or many?

    There is a large amount of "arterial" road which is occasionally pothole free. They would reduce the average further still.

    Sample sizes and content will also affect the outcome so either figure could be correct.

    ... However reading more about it I can see that Edinburgh was named the capital because Devon is not a city and London isn't a single authority. The report was also based on an FOI which counts number of reports so if 100 people reported a pothole on Lothian road it may well have been counted multiple times.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

  13. chdot
    Admin

    In amongst the wave of positive response to our achievement, there were some (mainly anonymous Twitter trolls) that were annoyed that we had something positive to say while the city still had some potholes

    https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/edinburgh-s-george-street-transformation-is-just-the-beginning-adam-mcvey-1-4976143

    Posted 4 years ago #
  14. unhurt
    Member

    Sink hole appears in Edinburgh city centre road

    "Officials used the full length of a broom handle to work out how deep the hole was. The hole is about as wide as a mobile phone."

    I see there's a new media unit of measurement now - the mobile.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  15. Arellcat
    Moderator

    In terms of The Size of Wales, a mobile phone is approximately 4.2 ten-millionths of the width (longitudinal) of Wales, with a maximum error of about 1300 mobile phones.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  16. le_soigneur
    Member

    The recent heavy rain will have caused the subterranean washout. There is a large catchment of gutters/roadway on E Claremont St that cascades underground downhill to Powderhall & Water of Leith. In 2000, the sinkhole there was 1 metre square by 3 metres deep!
    Patching it up only postpones the problem until the next time.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  17. Blueth
    Member

    Mr McVey surely can't be spouting that hogwash about the state of the roads with a straight face. He must use rather well suspended vehicles with very heavily tinted glass if he really believes it.

    You'd have to use some carefully selected measurement sites to say that they are better than eight years ago.

    Why lose credibility by coming out with nonsense like that?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

  19. neddie
    Member

    ”my wife hit her head off the passenger window”

    Why wasn’t she wearing a helmet?

    Car helmets NOW

    Posted 4 years ago #
  20. gembo
    Member

    @blueth, the roads were bad eight years ago, the roads are always bad, we dont do roads well. Not like Mallorca or Sweden etc

    Posted 4 years ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

  22. chdot
    Admin

    Just 1 in 10 councils meet pothole repair target times

    https://www.cyclinguk.org/article/just-1-10-councils-meet-pothole-repair-target-times

    Posted 4 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

  24. chdot
    Admin

  25. chdot
    Admin

    A telecoms company was fined by the council more than 170 times last year after it repeatedly failed to follow the correct roadworks procedures.

    https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/poor-edinburgh-roadworks-management-sees-25687971

    Fines clearly not big enough!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  26. ejstubbs
    Member

    "the worst offender by far was CityFibre with an average pass rate of 53 per cent." No big surprise there. CityFibre also responsible for the closure of Ashley Terrace having damaged the bridge over the Caledonian Railway as was, reported here.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  27. jss
    Member

    How sad that the country that invented Mcadam tarmac should now be so crap at it
    These guys should be sent to France to learn how to do it - although i fear many would be instantly guiillotened for their offences against tarmac
    I was shocked how many pot holes and crevices have appeared in the last few months in our wonderful bollarded cycle lanes making them dangerous for anyone not on a fully suspended mountain bike
    I would suggest the road repair budget be spent exclusively on making all bike lanes completely smooth and leave the rest of the road to disintegrate .
    After all , 4 WD drivers of SUVs would surely enjoy the off road experience without having to leave the city

    Posted 1 year ago #
  28. chdot
    Admin

    Edinburgh potholes:

    12 vehicles suffer burst tyres over one weekend on Lanark Road West in Balerno

    State of Edinburgh road ‘nothing short of catastrophe’

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-potholes-12-vehicles-suffer-burst-tyres-over-one-weekend-on-lanark-road-west-in-balerno-3999709

    Posted 1 year ago #
  29. neddie
    Member

    If only they'd provide alternatives so people didn't have to burst the roads with loads of driving and massive SUVs

    Posted 1 year ago #
  30. gembo
    Member

    The Lang Whang west of Balerno has been shocking for several years, I have had p words on the bike

    Maybe now it will be fixed

    Won’t last unless The Crusher is introduced for the mindless SUVs

    Lovely new tarmac on road down to Tarbrax though,

    Posted 1 year ago #

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