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"Couple threatened with social services - their children ride bikes to school"

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  1. steveo
    Member

    Its less to do with cars and more to do with risk aversion imo, I walked to and from Balgreen Primary and Tynecastle High from the start and on my own from about (P3) onwards both these schools from my house required negotiating Gorgie road which is much quieter than it used to be.

    My mum was less worried about Gorgie road than she was the rat run round Robs Loan in Chesser, once that was blocked up i was free to go.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    " I think the problem is again CARS."

    Yes, but the sort of people who don't think young children should walk/cycle 'these day' are the sort of people who drive to school...

    Some realise that they are 'part of the problem', but don't really care because 'I'm doing what's best for my child/ren'.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  3. Kim
    Member

    " I think the problem is again CARS."

    No the problem is not Cars, it is drivers! A car without a driver is not going anywhere. It is selfish, lazy drivers that are the problem.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  4. gembo
    Member

    I'm sticking with cars as the problem. When I walked to school there were no cars, stationary or otherwise, just the odd horse drawn carriage. Roads were very safe but we still had geoff capes, kevin keegan and dave prowse warning us about ice cream vans and crossing between parked cars. Gorgie Rd is pretty mental to cycle on but the pavement is mostly car free for pedestrians. The odd delivery van may mount the kerb. If single occupancy cars were banned/taxed more that might reduce the amount of them on the road???

    I think lots of drivers do know that there are too many cars on the road but they just can't kick the habit for whatever reason - there are usually plenty of reasons but as we have said before much of the traffic on the walk to school in the morning is folk driving their kids to school. If they all gave that up and everyone walked then the risk in walking would come down. Sadly, that isn't likely.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  5. SRD
    Moderator

    The basic issue seems to be lack of parental supervision - i.e. idea that kids under (?) 10 ? 12 always need to have parents watching. Very sad, especially in these days of mobiles etc, when you would think parents could actually feel better letting their kids go off and do stuff.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  6. scotti
    Member

    There is another issue. Our local Primary School will not let the kids out of the school unless there is a "grown up" to collect them. P1 - P3 if I remember right, that's upwards of 50 kids requiring collection. The vast majority walk or cycle, but a lot of those kids will be collected by car.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  7. Kim
    Member

    At what age can children be trusted to go to school by them selves? I was about six when I first walking home by my self, by the age of eight I was cycling on the roads by my self. OK so it was a small village, but has really become so much more dangerous that children can't be let out on their own until they are 12??

    Posted 13 years ago #
  8. 'Perception' of danger has changed, rather than the danger itself. A lot of that is to do with the immediate nature of media, and saturated coverage of the dangers in the workd, which until now we'd either been oblivious of, or saw reported in a more measured manner.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  9. SRD
    Moderator

  10. That one really is a storm in a teacup. His salary is £80k. His salary is NOT £250k. The extra £102k is for additional work, spread over two years. The other payments are for out of hours work, and arrears from the previous year (so again, nothing to do with a salary for THIS year).

    Again, his salary is NOT the £250k quoted. Shoddy shoddy reporting from much of the media on this (at least the Grauniad has broken it down properly).

    Posted 13 years ago #
  11. SRD
    Moderator

    Just thought you'ld like the picture accompanying the story!

    Posted 13 years ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

    "
    But many parents remained philosophical. "He's good at his job and he enjoys it – that's the most important thing," said one father. "But I'm a little bit down when I hear about wages like that, compared to what we earn. I never imagined he could get that much.
    "

    Understandable

    "Ted Purcell, GMB public services officer, said: "It is outrageous that a headteacher in a local community school should earn more money than the prime minister."

    Er?

    IF no-one should ever earn more than a Prime Minister, then OK but...

    NOT that this PM needs the money...

    Posted 13 years ago #
  13. I'd rather a teacher who did some great work in the wider community was paid £80k a year than some second-rate footballers were paid more than that a WEEK. (and I'm a football fan).

    Sorry SRD - had a bee in my bonnet about that story since it first broke.

    The picture is lovely... ;)

    Posted 13 years ago #
  14. Kim
    Member

    "Highly paid head teacher cycles to work..without a helmet" we need more role models like that.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  15. Kim
    Member

    Yes Anth, what is the going rate for a lawyer?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  16. wee folding bike
    Member

    Normally paid biology teachers do it too.

    More of a roll model though, if it's got mature cheese and dates or a potato scone on it.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  17. SRD
    Moderator

    Anth, just spotted this in the comment section of the paper. A very nice, somewhat more personal account.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    Also

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10612765

    Posted 13 years ago #

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