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@gembo - Paramo for the win. Actually breathable (that is, you can breathe through it), yet it appears to keep you dry. Not sit in a puddle dry (like Goretex), but cycling in rain dry, with less sweat.
Downside is, Paramo can be warm, hence there is a "light" version with less inherent warmth.
Second downside is the cost...
Robert
@Roibeard Paramo like that orange one you had on this morning on Meadows when I said hello but you blanked me?? :-)
Paramo you proof and reproof like a Barbour (but with Niqwax wash thingy rather than actual wax?)
I would pay the money if there was an actual waterproof and breathable garment that actually existed for the Big Sweater
Not blanked, just delayed reaction...
Paramo tends to need more regular washing rather than proofing, but yes, occasional special washes to keep the rain beading (although this doesn't impact the waterproof-ness as much as keeping clean).
It might be worth a try, and you can pick up somewhat cheaper seconds on eBay.
The "analogy light" fabric is the less warm one - their walking waterproofs would be way too toasty to cycle in, whereas the light version is more like a warm shell.
Robert
I have Paramo for walking (the trousers in particular are amazingly comfortable) but could never cycle in it due to its toastiness, but I haven't tried the lighter versions.
I would pay the money if there was an actual waterproof and breathable garment that actually existed for the Big Sweater
In my experience of being around hillwalkers for many years, I am under the impression that such a garment does not exist.
However:
My friend who has a lightweight Paramo jacket really rates it and ran round big sections of the mountain marathon we did together in hers: a different friend who has the heavy weight version wore it a lot in a lot of rainy weather that we "enjoyed" together on the hills last week and also rates it (the second friend was given it and says she wouldn't have thought of buying one but is enjoying owning the one she has).
(I appreciate that men who "run hot" sweat a lot more than most women do.)
My Rab shell jacket has behaved very well. It cost the same as a Paramo.
It is lo-vis so I tend not to use it for urban bicycling.
I have thought about Paramo, but my OH hates how they look, plus cost plus heat.
I have had a lightweight Gore Goretex for road biking for around 10 years (or more?). Only now am I replacing it as it's coming apart. I have just bought a new packable Gore C5 goretex active jacket on eBay for £80. Seems reasonable - will test.
Re Shakedown - like the idea. In fact I have a Columbia walking jacket using the same principle (membrane is on the outside so doesn't need DWR). But they are all black and very expensive.
I am in the market for a lightweight summer waterproof jacket as my yellow Marmot one continues to delaminate. I think the delamination started from my helmet (worn over the hood) pinching the material so ideally need one with a loose hood that with go over the top of a helmet. I bought a Keela jacket that had been reviewed in the free walking/cycling magazine which did claim to do just that but it doesn't. It's a good jacket though and is now my lightweight summer walking jacket.
@jdanielp have you tried a hat under the helmet or indeed a cover for your helmet? These options will save your jacket
need one with a loose hood that with go over the top of a helmet.
Possibly not your style but all NATO surplus Goretex jackets come with a hood that fits over a (Kevlar) helmet.
I'm with IWARTS in that waterproofing tends to stop after a couple of years. Application of lots of time and special treatments can extend it, but hmm. Delamination seems to set in at 4 or 5 years regardless.
I find it totally pointless attempting to stay dry when active (boil in the bag problem) so I simply wear items that keep the wind chill off and leave it at that. Merino ftw.
@gembo a cover for your helmet
No No No No No No No.
No to helmet covers. Under all circumstances.
They look WRONG.
@unhurt, i agree just trying to divert @jdanielp from the helmet+hood look
I have an array of caps myself
@gembo I have not tried those options. Is helmet and hood the cycling equivalent of socks and sandals? I might well consider trying a cap, but a helmet cover seem ridiculous.
The ultimate solution would probably be to stop wearing a helmet, which I might consider when the Meadows to canal route has been constructed and proves to be effective.
@jdanielp
The Cap is even better without a helmet, tho Velominati Rule 73 decrees The Cap must only be worn when cycling. Saw person jogging in one not cool and even uncooller person at flaming lips gig in one
@gembo noted.
caps when not cycling can be tricky and not something I would attempt, but MiniMcR was rocking this earlier in the summer. She looks far better in it than I do.
tres cute, did she eat any of the dinner?
Did not know CTUSM did cycling caps
This one looks more like a child's sun hat
Do you want me to ask The VelominaTI IF THEY WILL MAKE exception for Mini-iAINmcr?
sLIGHT VISUAL INFRINGEMENT OF rULE 2 ALSO?
That takes me back, saw them in Aberdeen early nineties. Excellent.
No hoods, that's boil in the bag territory. Cap works best (also prevents sunburn for us follicly challenged). Waterproof cap available for truly terrible weather. Although you need to wash your cap more than your helmet.
That's one of those moments where I hit send before I realised what I typed. I think I need some lunch.
No to helmet covers.
People with helmet covers wear their helmets in the supermarket aisles and make me sweat with discomfort.
@snowy It's too late for my poor mind's eye...
Pretty strong winds today.
Note to self: going down the cycle lane next to the tram tracks at Haymarket Yards is terrifying with crosswinds
Yep!
I got shifted by a gust on North Bridge this morning, and then on Great King Street my bike got blown off a stand as I was unlocking it - fortunately caught it just in time.
The torpedo generally goes better the windier it is. I was out early today and had a good run to work. Side gusts do grab the steering a bit, so I try to keep it down to 40mph on the descents.
Going down the cycle lane next to the tram tracks at Haymarket Yards is terrifying in any weather.
Cycling yesterday was quite a challenge. The wind felt much stronger than the 20mph predicted by BBC weather. I cycle to uni on a heavy e-bike and even on that I felt myself being pushed violently to the side on a couple of occasions. Even on flat ground with full assistance on, I was struggling to keep over 10mph in the headwind.
Going back home with the tailwind was fun though, no assistance and I was flying along the tram route at 20-25mph
Cycled into the wind from Haymarket to Saughton yesterday - didn't notice the crosswinds so much as barely got past 5mph, it felt like. It's the first time for a few weeks I've been in the City cycling, and pleased to see the Balgreen crossing all kitted out nicely Toucan-wise.
Cycling back all the way to Waverley, tailwinds and catching a lovely green wave all the way from Haymarket to Waverley Bridge made it a pure pleasure.
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