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Todays bad taxi driving.

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  • Started 10 years ago by guydingle
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  1. gembo
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    Yes engine was problem on the dominator (motorbike). Less so perhaps on yer pal's wife. At least she went for the bike. I assume it behaved badly?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. fimm
    Member

    I've read that if you only drive your car X miles a year then it is cheaper to use a taxi for those journeys once all the expenses of having a car are taken into account. X is a surprisingly large amount (not that I can remember even vaguely what it was).

    Both my parents are having issues with their eyesight and I think would like to stop driving and rely on taxis (plus public transport and their children...)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I assume it behaved badly?

    No, he did. But she had insight and reserves of mindfulness that allowed her to redirect her fury to puncturing the bike's steel structure instead of his all too weak flesh. (Cue Madness' It Must Be Love.)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. neddie
    Member

    If you choose not to run a car, you can save £2000 or £3000 per annum or more on costs (depreciation fuel insurance tax maintenance). That two grand can buy you 200 taxi rides at £10 a ride, so a taxi journey every other day.

    Something we'd very much like to do when the kids are out of their heavyweight child seats is to sell the dirty diesel and use only the city car club and taxis. This has the added benefits of freeing you from the burdens of car ownership (parking, taking to the garage, etc) and freeing you to take the train or fly places then hire a car when you get there at "no added cost "

    However, when taxi drivers act like dicks it make me less inclined to want to do that. So they literally are doing themselves out of a lot of future business

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. Ed1
    Member

    I spend much less than 2 grand a year on my car about £1400 last year and that's because needed £650 in work.

    It may be more environmental to drive than to take a taxi as taxi has to make another journey to arrive and all diesel, but I suppose a taxi may be better for the local economy.

    fly places and then hire a car -), I suppose car ownership does have the added benefit of reducing fuel usage by people driving not flying.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. neddie
    Member

    Ed1 - planes are very efficient in terms of fuel usage. Take-offs, cruise altitudes, wind directions and landings are all optimised to reduce fuel consumption by flight computers and pilots.

    Per passenger, planes consume less fuel than a single occupancy car on the same journey. The main environmental problem with planes is that they enable journeys that wouldn't otherwise be possible e.g. stag weekends to Barcelona.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. Ed1
    Member

    http://www.afdc.energy.gov/data/10311

    Oh yes I see a plane gets 51 miles per gallon(US) in this comparison making it efficient.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. steveo
    Member

    Doesn't say how many people are in the car but we can probably assume average less than two. Add another person to a modern car and I suspect the car might be more efficient. In that narrow definition and obviously not across the entire car pool.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. Ed1
    Member

    Yes and what capacity would the train have be at or the plane for mpg per person

    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. steveo
    Member

    I think we can assume that on average a plane runs near capacity, they're over booked on purpose for that reason. Railway average capacity would be interesting. The chart makes note that buses run consistently under optimum capacity but that is the US.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  11. Ed1
    Member

    A problem with train occupancy or capacity rates is that because trains can run above their capacity rates, on average train capacity could be 100% while many trains run almost empty. Because unlike planes or cars that cannot legally run above capacity. A trains capacity is the number of seats but can take many more people than that. Without using average capacity of the train route and time in questions rates for trains passenger MPG does not relate as well, passenger mpg at 11pm could be single figures at peak very high . Unlike cars where normally 1 and a bit passengers or planes where near capacity there may be a lot of variation in trains and deviation from average made less transparent by their ability to run over capacity.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. fimm
    Member

    Taxi with a plate that I've recorded as T884 SGP (but I'm not certain that is right).
    Driver messing with a hand held mobile device while driving up Dundas Street around 10:15pm (ish) last night. I shouted or gestured at him as he passed me; he then stopped in the queue to turn right and as I passed him again and looked to see that he did still have his phone in his hand he shouted something of which the only word I heard was "you"; I suspect the other word began with F.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  13. Frenchy
    Member

    Taxi with a plate that I've recorded as T884 SGP (but I'm not certain that is right).

    That license plate does belong to a taxi, so you're almost certainly right about it. Email address for complaints about taxis is licensing@edinburgh.gov.uk

    Posted 6 years ago #
  14. fimm
    Member

    Cheers Frenchy. Snooty email sent (with grumble about the person who drove his taxi through the red light at the Haymarket jughandle and out into the cycle lane, while I'm at it. I do have a photo of that one, I'll upload it once I've gone through the faff of getting it off my phone!)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  15. Frenchy
    Member

    What's the longest anyone's waited from the council for a response to a complaint about a taxi driver?

    I made a complaint in April, was told it would be referred to the cab inspector, but haven't heard anything yet despite asking what's happening four or five times. I've made other complaints since then and they've been responded to far more quickly.

    What's the next step if repeatedly asking "What's happening?" is ignored?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

  17. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    From this month's Broughton Spurtle:

    "Police have recently reported over 100 cabs to the Edinburgh Taxi Inspector for forming an illegal rank outside the Balmoral Hotel."

    Posted 6 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    How many years has that been going on??!

    Posted 6 years ago #
  19. Frenchy
    Member

    After above post about not getting a response from the council, I have now spoken to the police inspector who deals with these. He is going to look at that incident, but also said that emailing the licensing department at the council isn't the best thing to do in the first place. He advised just cutting out the middle man and phoning 101 to report bad taxi driving.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  20. Frenchy
    Member

    Passed a taxi driver parked on zig zags at a pedestrian crossing whilst playing with his phone last night. A minute later I saw a police car going in the opposite direction. In some universes these two facts would cause an interaction. In ours, I'm less sure.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  21. neddie
    Member

    Taxi (Black cab #878 I think) decided to set down a pax in the middle of the pedestrian crossing of the Mound / Market St junction, causing consternation among pedestrians and the following drivers alike. Much beeping and shaking of heads.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

  23. chdot
    Admin

    Edinburgh South East (@EdinPolSE)
    16/01/2018, 09:38
    Working with our partners at City of Edinburgh Council Taxi Examiners at the weekend. 16 private hire cars stopped . Ten tickets issued and two vehicles put off the road for more serious offences.

    http://pic.twitter.com/4VN2fBoTqh

    Posted 6 years ago #
  24. dougal
    Member

    I presume that means there's no more taxis illegally waiting outside the Balmoral then?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  25. crowriver
    Member

    You presume wrong, dougal. Saw two of the blighters at 9.15am today. Cab No. 540 had claimed pole position, and was brazening it out. A silver cab was manoeuvring to slot in behind him. I gave the driver of 540 a quizzical Paddington hard stare: he tried to remain fixed on the far distance, the snowy peaks of cabbie success no doubt in his mind.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  26. biketrain
    Member

    Are black cab drivers allowed to 'Vape' while driving and touting for a fare?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  27. Trixie
    Member

    Vaping in an enclosed space is at the discretion of the employer/owner of said space. Kind of rude in a taxi though.

    (I'm a vaper, the rise in popularity of VG e-liquids and their billows of burnt toffee smelling vapour are a pain in my posterior. I use a mainly PG liquid, it does not give off ostentatious clouds, nor any smell. I used to be able to stealth-vape almost anywhere. Now, thanks to the plumes and odour given off by others I might as well spark up a fag in terms of tolerance when I'm spotted. VG liquid is the cigar of vaping. Bah.)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  28. dessert rat
    Member

    Black Taxi #47 - SB65 VGM.

    Yesterday, bottom of The Mound. On double yellow, in bike lane, no driver in sight. But the hazards were on, so that makes it OK.

    Probably coincidental it was right outside the toilets there.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  29. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Was by whoever delivered a neatly dressed and softly spoken Irishman to our door at midnight last night looking for 'girls'.

    I sent him packing despite his protestations that he'd come a long way. Most peculiar.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  30. HankChief
    Member

    I could have put this in several threads...

    This morning my eldest announced he wanted to cycle his own bike to school (a first since last summer).

    We set off and get half a mile from home before my youngest announced she wasn't wearing her school shoes...

    Having retrieved them we are crossing St John's Road by the Centurion pub. This involves turning right across 2 lanes of traffic but thankfully there is a large hatched area in the middle of the road to wait.

    As we were waiting one if edinburgh's finest taxi drivers felt compelled to shout at me & my kids that it was a no right turn at this point.

    He was correct that there is a sign to this effect however underneath is written "except cycles".

    So thank you for shouting at us - just what any novice cyclist wants.

    And while we are at it last night I got a 4 letter expletive from a taxi driver for the audacity to shout "woah" at him for creeping onto my side of the road whilst turn right towards me and I wasn't convinced he'd seen me :-(

    Posted 6 years ago #

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