I agree @stickman. The time it takes to get things done in Embra, even after the start of actual work, is glacial. And as far as I can see, there's still everything to do at the other end of this link?
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Meadows-Innocent consultation (and subsequent building & use)
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Tom Quinn (@geologiser)
03/09/2015 13:21
@CyclingEdin yeah - not much social awareness from @SnaxEdinburgh"
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Single yellows mean parking for vans, right?
Are the lights still off?
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"Single yellows mean parking for vans"
Don't seem to be any flashes on kerb to indicate restrictions. Just another of CEC's part-time bike lanes.
"Are the lights still off?"
You mean the crossing?
Never been on!
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Traffic warden was getting pelters around 1pm for booking parked cars there from a woman who I think was from Snax, so maybe it will improve.
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Was cycling up St Leonard's Street on the way home this evening and saw that the new crossing lights were on. Hurrah!
However, this is Edinburgh - so the lights were still off on Clerk Street and Buccleuch Street. There were some temporary lights on Clerk Street - no idea what they were doing - along with a sign saying road works here for one week.
Why turn just one set on? That said - I think they will be a real success. There were four cyclists crossing St Leonard's Street at the same time as me with many more using the new lanes.
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I rolled up and down this facility on Sunday. On the way out to the Innocent the surface south of the St Leonards Police Station was noticeably and disappointingly uneven compared to the road I'd just been on. It actually made it feel a little hard to cycle along, like I was going up a steeper gradient that it really was).
Perhaps they've modelled it on the brick surfaced cyclepath towards East Parkside? Certainly, when I came back that way the unevenness didn't seem anywhere near a bad having ridden over those bricks just before I got to the new path.
It's a shame that it ain't perfect, but it's good to see it there, and I hope it's the first of many proper segregated facilities.
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It seems to be getting used which means it can't be all that bad. I have been using the St Leonards bit and it is still better than the vast majority of the roads. I will look forward to giving the whole thing a try once it is properly open.
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The bin and that same motorbike were there yesterday too. Someone really does need to paint a double yellow up to the cycle track pronto; and move the bin.
On a happier note. It's good to see the mural has been repaired.
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Used it to jump a red light in that the pedestrians who had triggered it were on the other side of the road and I could take the path at the opening, which was nice.
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Are St Leonards/Buccleuch Streets suffering from delayed parking signage syndrome?
Isn't it the case the yellow lines mean nothing without signage to back them up, and so aren't enforceable until then? Could be the Snax van and others are within their rights to park there at the moment.
And we all know advisory bike lanes are simply an invitation to motorists to stay out and leave them to cyclists, an invitation motorists are free to accept or ignore.
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Used it Meadows to Clerk St today
The Buccleuch St section is like riding over tiny consecutive speed bumps and quite in contrast to the Meadows path. Whoever the contractor is should be made to relay their expense, only after the inspector (assuming it was inspected) is given punishment of cycling over it back and forth for a full day.
I cut the corner past the toucan and joined over the lane because sharp 90 deg bends don't work on bikes. I responded, at least, to the Home St consultation pointing this out. Wouldn't be an issue with unidirectional lanes - and nor would two linked toucans close together in an arrangement as has existed on Home St for decades.
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Okay, enough is enough.
I was walking past the Buccleuch Street section this morning about 8.45 (had a nice chat with SRD who was there waiting to cross with sprog on tandem) and saw a young lad, about 9, waiting to cross over towards the Meadows.
South-bound traffic was backed up stationery from big Hope Park Terrace/Melville Drive/Summerhall junction, leaving a gap at the crossing, and the lad started across, not being able to see oncoming north-bound traffic coming up from junction.
Only adults with a better view (one possibly his mum also on a bike bringing up the rear) stopped him in time before he cycled across.
There were at least a dozen or more cyclists waiting to cross before I moved on after my chat with SRD -- it is already being used heavily.
I tweeted Lesley Hinds this morning with the story and pleaded to have the lights working as a matter of urgency. If others could also contact her then maybe she will understand that the unlighted crossing is an accident waiting to happen.
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I tweeted a "why are you devoting quite so much resources to taking apart the George Street lane in quite such a hurry when you haven't managed to fix the lights on the new Meadows-Innocent link yet" in the direction of the council. They responded that it's being sent to the "relevant department".
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The relevant department is presumably not connected to the department which allowed/arranged the nearby Melville Drive to be closed to ensure the safety of the professional racing-bicyclists proceeding along it.
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Boyfriend of fimm, Friend of the fimms and I used this from the Innocent tunnel in the direction of the Meadows yesterday. Even being in rather speedy roadie mode, it was OK (the men seemed more comfortable with all the wriggling about than I was). That was until we got to the main road which is all closed for resurfacing (no signs warning of this, of course). We cycled along a narrow bit of pavement until we could escape from behind the barriers and get onto the road.
How long before the road surfacing is finished? Sometime I will leave a bit earlier and see if it is a usable route to get to the Commie.
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The barriers are down this morning, cyclists crossing, though the surface is still being worked on. I did note one of the concrete bollards at the top of Gifford park has been knocked over, looks like broken off at base. Must have taken some force to do that!
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"Must have taken some force to do that!"
I suspect a big bin lorry.
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The final roadworks for the Gifford link at Clerk Street is leaving the traffic in gridlock at the moment thanks to our pesky insistence on segregated infrastructure.
The poor drivers are stuck in long lines of motionless traffic, with the hot sun doing little to curb tempers.
A small price to pay, I'm sure we'll all agree.
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I suspect a big bin lorry.
A big anything lorry will do that. Braidburn Valley Park gateposts, anyone?
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"A big anything lorry will do that"
Yes, but bin lorries back-up there to get to the bins.
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Did my eyes deceive me or are the lights on Clerk Street working now (looking up the way from Buccleuch Street - still not working)?
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Weren't yesterday - apart from the temporary ones which have been useful.
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Some people are practicing using the buttons -
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I think the plan is to have bins on one side only.
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Am I the only one who thinks the new markings in the pend from Gifford Park to Clerk Street are a bit of an overkill? One blue shared use sign at either end would suffice.
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I received this in an email recently, from someone who had complained to council about the Buccleuch place section being poorly designed for cyclists :
"I fear cyclist / walker conflicts further east where the cycle route crosses Clerk St – the puffin crossing is a straight continuation of the Gifford Park cul-de-sac route for bikes (rather than being staggered, as I understand was originally promised), and I can see ‘the green light’ for cyclists being taken by many of the ‘male macho’ sub-class of cyclist as authority to batter straight across the pavement towards Rankeilor St."
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