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Meadows-Innocent consultation (and subsequent building & use)
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Recently blogged: http://deceasedcanine.blogspot.co.uk/2016/02/the-good-bad-and-ugly-of-edinburghs.html
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http://road.cc/content/news/180758-bollards-stop-drivers-hitting-cyclists-bike-track
St Leonard's, anyone?
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@Coxy
GSV shows a van parked plonk in the middle of the 'protected route' :rollseyes:
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I'm a big fan of the way that Amsterdam (and presumably many other cities) use continuous pavement (plus cycle lane) to give proper priority to those walking and cycling. Given this I wondered what might be going wrong at this junction. I'd love to know more from locals - but here's an interesting observation. Look at Google Streetview showing this junction from the perspective of someone driving out from the side road:
https://goo.gl/maps/osgFKrg1cMk
Also take note that this seems to be one of those very short out of context bits of infrastructure, and that it's two way (here's what it looks like just down the street: https://goo.gl/maps/Knwwzeu3QNt )Now look at some equivalent junctions in Amsterdam:
https://goo.gl/maps/LY3vHASMm1P2
https://goo.gl/maps/JHD59hJVnp32
https://goo.gl/maps/fNtcMV4aBSL2
(Do your own research - there are hundreds to choose from).What do you think the differences are? I can see a few that seem key - the top two being that the lack of the give way symbol, and the really clear wide pavement, are really obvious in comparison to the Leicester example.
Thoughts and observations on this welcome.
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The pavement has a 45 degree taper where the road meets the cycleway in the Amsterdam cases. This states, "the road is coming to an end, get ready to stop."
In the Leicester example, the parallel kerb and double yellows right up to the cycleway state, "this is definitely a road for moving along, oh wait..." and bang you're on top of the cycleway.
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The lights were dark this morning at Clerk Street. They may have been bust for a while because when I warned a guy coming the other direction about it he replied "yeah I know".
In other news the bumpy path on Hope Park Crescent was resurfaced a week or so ago.
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Apparently the lights are deliberately off, maybe until tomorrow, for maintenance.
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Dear all
The Gifford Park Murals
Many of you will have seen the murals on the walls of the pedestrian corridor at the east end of Gifford Park (near the former Odeon cinema in Clerk Street). Please see attached photographs which show the section of the street before and after. The murals reflect local businesses and characters.
We are delighted to announce that the Southside Association has been shortlisted to compete as a finalist in the Celebrating Communities category of the Scottish Charities Awards 2016 (organised by the SCVO – the Scottish Council for Voluntary Organisations). This is what we have written for the SCVO about our project:
The idea of painting murals on dirty, graffiti covered walls of a pedestrian thoroughfare full of bins and rubbish seemed unlikely to catch on but there was such enthusiasm that we persisted. Thanks to a plan from the City’s cycle team to upgrade the cycle route we were able to make a transformation. Painting these murals drew together businesses, residents, students, tourists, - the whole community. It has been an amazing journey for us. Please look at our Facebook page to get the whole story (Gifford Park Mural). If it makes you smile too then please give us your vote.
The Association is indebted to Hilary McDowell who started the whole project, and who battled to see it to completion; to the artist Kate George for her wonderful work; and to the University of Edinburgh for producing the postcards above which show the completed mural.
We would be very pleased if you would consider voting for us.
Here is the link - http://www.scvo.org.uk/charity-awards/the-southside-association/
We would also be grateful if you would consider forwarding this to colleagues and friends and family.
Thank you,
Colin
Colin Christison
Chair/Secretary
The Southside Association
117 Nicolson Street
Edinburgh
EH8 9ERhttp://www.southsideassociation.co.uk
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New paths to Sciennes.
Yes that is Victor Hugos in background and this cycle route is wide and smooth. Toucan at Melville Drive. Well done CEC.
New paths to Sciennes by LaidBackBikes, on Flickr
New paths to Sciennes by LaidBackBikes, on Flickr
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Is it finished?
Wasn't a couple of days ago.
Interesting details where paths cross by tennis court.
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They were still sorting markings and had blocked path at Burroughloch. This made me turn left and use this new route. What a nice surprise.
Actually a very good route to get over to Marchmont.
No markings at Toucan at Melville Drive yet. Think they may mark the path that runs parallel to Melville Dr on South Side towards Bruntsfield?
Ramp goes up to Victor Hugo too.So we are now getting some routes that I wasn't expecting. Good for school run to Crags!
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I theory it gives a great offroad route from Sciennes PS to Arthurs Seat and beyond.
The (not so) funny part of that ride is crossing Melville Terrace at Victor Hugo, which should be - at the very least - a zebra crossing.
We sit there on a Saturday during sons tennis and its a miracle no child has been knocked down.
Do agree with @laidback though, the new tarmac is very good.
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Are we really celebrating the extension of tarmacking over of green space to cut a corner? Seems to be solving the wrong problem.
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@mgj There was an existing route - it's been widened and smoothed.
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I cycle through the Meadows every day. The improvements to the paths have been great. However, this is starting to get a bit silly - this path will have cost a fair bit of cash and it could probably have been better spent somewhere with no cycle infrastructure.
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they've also done a lot of work (including a lot of vehicles on paths/grass) on the other diagonal path - the one that comes out near Chalmers st.
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@Morningsider, I think that's what is referred to in the hackneyed phrase "low hanging fruit".
Widening a path in the Meadows is (almost literally) child's play compared to threatening illegal parking in loading bays at Roseburn/George Street/Leith Walk/any other example you care to mention that's not the Meadows.
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A cycle path the length of Maybury Road may be slightly trickier than one across the Meadows but similarly should be simple for the council compared to those in your list.
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Nice that they've incorporated a BMX route into the design.
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@Erob " ..BMX route .."
Are you referring to the non-standard sign for a bike, or the fact that the route veers off, for no apparent reason, towards an obstacle?
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Cobbles, tactiles, high friction surfacing and a big offset. Was there some sort of bet as to how much they could spend on this.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Dare say the veering is to improve the sight line and slightly reduce speed at the blind corner of the tennis court.
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"Dare say the veering is to improve the sight line and slightly reduce speed at the blind corner of the tennis court."
Yes, and a speed reduction nudge.
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Interesting - are the tactiles facing the correct directions? Good to have the work on the diagonal path on the other side of MMW confirmed; I'd noticed that it looked suddenly rather neater than it had whilst passing by on Jawbone Walk the other day.
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Yes, but why not just paint SLOW or put in some give way lines. The cobbles and offset will have added thousands to the cost of the path for no appreciable benefit. Literally thousands of pedestrians and cyclists interact on he Meadows paths every day without incident. It simply isn't necessary.
I appreciate the effort and am always happy to see new cycle infrastructure. However, budgets are limited and I would rather see more infrastructure - rather than gold plating of a few schemes.
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Probably to do with the time of year? Budget needing used up? Looks nice. Why grumble? It is not as if it is a 3 mile long 3-4 metre wide almost totally segregated cycle lane. Just. Wee path going across the grass to Victor hugos
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@ih the dirt track and jump to the right of the main path :)
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The Rankeillor St surface is an absolute mess. I'd like to see a resurface of the whole road but with a 2-way on-road cycle lane (the red chip variety) to join up in a straight line the lead-in paths at each end. Parking could stay the same, and given it's a cul-de-sac one lane should be enough for access. Any cars needing to pass each other could briefly encroach on the cycle lane. The additional cost over a resurface would be minimal. Is that legal? It's not unlike the contra-flow lane on a one way street.
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