@coxy cool cheers for that. Sounds similar to what I do, am just recently finding the swing across the tram tracks has to be from the left of the left all way to the right lane due to buses stopping
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"five most terrifying junctions/blackspots in Edinburgh"
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Posted 10 years ago #
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What's your strategy for dealing with it?
Buddhism
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What's your strategy for dealing with it?
Buddhism
Staring the car drivers in the eye!
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From the letter to SRD from CEC:
...it was noted that the green time for Tarvit Street was slightly greater than the time allocated to Gilmore Place.
I have subsequently adjusted this which means that both roads, Tarvit Street and Gilmore Place are allocated the same amount of ‘green time’. Therefore, when a red signal is shown to Gilmore Place, similarly a red signal is shown to the Tarvit Street approach, thus allowing right turning vehicles from Gilmore Place more opportunity to turn...
When I exited Tarvit St this morning, the green light was just changing to yellow as I crossed the stop line. But I noticed that the right turning traffic coming in the opposite direction from Gilmore Pl had already fully stopped!
To me it looked as though the green light on Tarvit is still staying on longer than the one on Gilmore. Perhaps they've not adjusted the timing of the lights at all...!? Or changed the wrong thing?
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Tarvit Place really needs 2 people to check it out - with the second observor on Gilmore Place who can use some sort of semaphore hand signals to communicate as the lights change. Would be useful to film with both the lights and second observer in shot.
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If I remember my handlebarcam tomorrow I could get it at lunchtime, leaving the bike briefly chained-up with the camera running with a view of the Tarvit St lights and me wandering over to the Gilmore Place lights whilst simultaneously filming on my proper camera, then side-by-siding the results. Unless there's a convenient window pane somewhere which allows a person with direct sight of one set of lights to also see the opposing set reflected.
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It's still dwelling for extra time on Tarvit Street. If you stand directly under the light outside the King's you can see both sides. I'll try and put the can footage up tomorrow
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Yes, I just checked also.
The Tarvit St light stays green for an extra 5 seconds after the Gilmore Pl light starts to change!!!!
Whatever CEC did, they didn't fix the problem...
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Not brilliant, as I forgot about my camera and look away early, but you can see the problems.
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@EddieD good work. Now someone needs to get back on to CEC!
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I'll clarence this. I suggest others do too to add some weight of opinion.
EDIT - done http://www.fixmystreet.com/report/429465
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I've FixMyStreeted it too.
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Perhaps the strongest response would be for SRD to follow up her original email to the original official who claimed to have fixed it
SRD...?
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Synchronised at 14:00 on Thursday. Are there different settings at different times of day?
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I PMed SRD as I wasn't sure if she'd seen this thread & she said she would email and then did so.
@SRD if you are around, who did you email?Obviously kaputnik & I complained as well.
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@fimm I am happy to forward you email i sent, but don't have your email address (or if i do, i've forgotten it).
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I'll check on my way home again tonight
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I'll see if I can find a good position to try observe both cycles from this evening. Unless it's pouring down in which case I'm pressing on home!
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"Synchronised at 14:00 on Thursday. Are there different settings at different times of day? "
Quite possibly. Probably more likely to differ depending on local traffic conditions? We need an Edinburgh Traffic Light Computer expert on here.
I'm pretty sure that the Gorgie Road / Balgreen Road / Hutchison Crossway lights don't always follow the same pattern (specfically the green from HC usually comes on a few seconds before BR, but not always).
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Maybe its a bit like the heart rate monitor I once had that ALWAYS ran 2 minutes slow whether I reset it or not or no matter how long I left it for before resetting it again.
Or they just didn't do it right the first time.
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I'm stubborn enough to stand in the pouring rain...
The lights at Gorgie/Dalry/Ardmillan/Henderson definitely change patterns - sometimes the filter lights for Ardmillan/Henderson come on when the traffic is red for Gorgie, and Traffic is coming out of Henderson, other times all 3 roads go together and Henderson is stopped.
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Aye, still fine
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Aye, still fine
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Another one:
I don't see many people doing it but trying to go right out of Rosebery Crescent at Haymarket is downright vicious when it's busy. The problem begins when buses and coaches are stopping for passengers close to the corner at your right, that totally obstructs the view of traffic coming and the coaches in particular seem to be bad at pulling 'out' suddenly (more like straight forward into your path). So you're playing a dangerous game trying to get a gap there, in the other direction you have lights immediately to your left and then the second set further back at the jughandle. You often end up with a packet of traffic sitting at the red at the left, when that changes they rush forward exactly where you want to be turning out, then you have to contend with a further stream of traffic coming from the second set of lights further left. Trying to keep and eye on that, what the buses are doing, what might be overtaking the buses that you can't see, the peds swarming everywhere and usually with a car creeping into your back on the slope is very strenuous. I've been caught before with feeling pressured into going out when I thought the right was clear, which it was, but in the time I judged that and started to move out the lights at the left changed and I was cutoff by that traffic. End result was sitting sideways in the bus lane unable to reverse as the traffic behind had taken up the gap. Ugh.
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If you're heading down Abbeymount the Abbeyhill junction always scares me. Cars rarely seem to be able to see bikes in my experience.
I never go anywhere near the London Rd roundabout. Far too dangerous.
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Thought it was time to resurrect this thread.
Concensus?
New suggestions?
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The round about by westerhails to the bipass seems a bit unsafe at rush hour I now used the sidewalk often.
Posted 10 years ago # -
Maybury. Best just avoided. Barnton to the Gyle is one of Edinburgh's big missing cycling links.
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Gilmore Place seemed popular, but it's sort of being addressed by the Meadows/Canal stuff.
Gogar roundabout (heading west from north or east, rather than the Gyle), where you end up in the middle of two lanes with the shared-use path a no-stopping-required ex-bypass slip-lane away to your left?
Don't know if I ever thought of a fifth. Picardy Place would be a good default, even though I'm happy enough using it, because I'm only happy enough using it because I know how it works and what I have to do and have practised not being caught out by the magic inconsistent lane-markings on the north approach.
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Barnton to the Gyle is one of Edinburgh's big missing cycling links.
Seconded. Dead easy to fix as well - loads of room for a segregated cycle lane, especially now they have chevroned off the middle of the road (presumably because they don't believe drivers are competent enough to drive in a straight line).
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