Not particularly recent, but here is an interesting map of the strava activities worldwide recorded on a Saturday in the summer.
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Strava Heatmap - A Typical Saturday
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Posted 10 years ago #
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Wow. The UK is the bluest place on the planet according to that map!
We must love our Strava-ing
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"We must love our Strava-ing"
Unfortunately it's possibly the same sort of hunger to shave milliseconds off a time or be temporarily electronically crowned Hill Captain on a bike which makes drivers so panicked and impatient when they falsely perceive themselves to be being impeded.
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This is exactly the sort of information the council should be using to provide better cycle facilities
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Check the blue streak in the early hours. must be the Dunwich Dynamo.
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France and Germany didn't seem to have much? When I looked there was a little streak in far northern Norway and also on Madeira and canaries
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Seems to be mostly an English language thing
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Belgium and holland quite blue
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"hunger to shave milliseconds off a time"
Not every recorded segment is a lung-bursting attempt at a KOM. At least not in my case. Last year I went flat out about a dozen times.
That Saturday I rode 39 miles at an average of 16.2mph but I didn't bother recording the ride on GPS.
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@wingpig - your statement follows the same logic that leads people to believe that most cyclists jump red lights.
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No it doesn't. "Possibly" and "same sort". Also "hunger to shave milliseconds" != "mere interest in logging routes and times taken without necessarily always attempting to go as fast as possible".
Without poking deep into the Strava data to determine the speeds people are going at it's impossible to make any judgements on the predominant type of cycling the heatmap is representing. What are also available in relation to Strava data are the types of comments some Strava users make in relation to rides they're logging, which are sometimes notably similar in feel to the "AAARRAARGFROTH I was being held up so I became vexed and did something incautious" comments from purported motorists when griping about cyclists only going at x mph and delaying them for n minutes. The being-held-upness is reported as an affront to the thing of overriding importance, the speed/rush/hurry.Posted 10 years ago # -
@wingpig- I take your point that impatient people are impatient. This applies to whether they are on a bike or not.
All of the people I know personally who use Strava daily use it responsibly. A small minority of people I don't know may act recklessly but it is these actions that people pick up on and comment negatively upon.
It seems any online post mentioning strava always brings up some negative comments, just like any story in the EEN about cycling brings up RLJ and pavement cycling.
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Who wants to see a dangerous segment:
http://www.strava.com/segments/3348612
The KOM 'did it' at 21.1mph (along narrow WoL path & through Roseburn Pk)
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Yes, that is fast and possibly dangerous. But of the 126 people that have been through that segment only one has been >20 mph.
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It's easy to make the argument that all riding, running, or whatever against the clock is inherently dangerous and wrong, regardless of the actual speeds attained (the 'mindset' criticism).
However, it's pretty easy to use the data in this case to argue that speeds are being strongly moderated in response to the narrow route:
The KOM on half a mile of flat ground is 21mph. The KOM on *two and a half* miles of flat ground nearby (not a road) is 29.7mph which demands perhaps 3x the effort.
Melville Drive is 3/4 of a mile and the KOM is > 29mph there too. So there are plenty of people who can go extremely fast if they want.
You'd think that evidence people going 150% faster on wider routes than on this segment would be relatively welcome.
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Can you get KOM on bits of flat ground.?
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You can get them on pretty much anything, since you can create segments on anything.
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I am afraid to admit I though KOM stood for King of THE Mountain. I see that should be KOTM
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{a bit too fast} ⊂ {too fast}
{much too fast} ⊂ {too fast}Posted 10 years ago # -
wingpig, can you translate that for those of us who've forgotten our A level maths?
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"A bit too fast" and "much too fast" are both contained within "too fast".
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@mkns @gembo segments that are downhill can't be ranked. also segments that are flagged hazardous are not shown and are not ranked. that's why NECN segments disappears and I make sure they stay that way.
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That WoL segment - I'm struggling to see the problem to be honest. It's not at all narrow or hard to ride compared to some other bits of the WoL, plus it's flat and you get a good view ahead. I've certainly done ~20mph along there in the past though these days I take the nearby road instead. Not that I'd ever think about gunning it on a sunny afternoon when it's full of peds/dogs/kids etc, in fact like the canal I'd just avoid it all together.
Since my cycle computer reads out in mph, I'm not sure how that translates to 'fast' or 'too fast' or whatever else, so I'll have to keep making my own judgements on that based on the conditions. There's certainly times when 20mph would be possible but wildly reckless, other times I don't see an issue. For reference on the canal when there's people about I usually hover around 12-14mph, slowing to pass people.
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I've also flagged segments as hazardous.
The only segments I chase are uphill and on road.Posted 10 years ago # -
@mkns @gembo segments that are downhill can't be ranked
Interesting... I assume this must have changed? I recall once, a long time ago in fairness, accidentally claiming a KOM on a downhill stretch (it didn't last more than a day).
However, I'm glad that this is now the case. Although I do attempt uphill segments, I tend to be more successful on the flat ones - I hope they stay ranked!
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The main problem with the WoL/Roseburn Pk segment is that it goes through a park. And in the park there is a blind dogleg around 2 clubhouse buildings, and another blind corner over a humped back bridge.
Speeding cyclists are clearly a problem there, as there is white paint all over the path in large letters: "CYCLISTS SLOW DOWN" and signs up too.
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Sorry I have to correct myself. they are ranked but goals can't be set for average downhill grade of less than -0%.
Anyway I don't see the link between sportive cycling and motorist impatience. On the first every tiny gain you get comes from pain in your body, while the second is just about how much you can get away playing dice with death.
The most popular segment in Edinburgh is Arthur's seat climb: grade 4 uphill, one way, traffic calmed, with separate footway. Even the people that can put down 400w can stop in a metre there.
Posted 10 years ago # -
I got KOM rolling down the High St on the 2013 POP. After that Strava looked a little pathetic.
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@robyvecchio
If you ride the NECN then you must be familiar with the pillocks who barrel down the path demanding that everyone else get out of their way. I don't much care whether their marginal gains come at the expense of pain in their bodies. I don't care about their bodies at all. I care about mine.Posted 10 years ago # -
Doubler.
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