What happened to the bill which was proposed in Holyrood to make pavement parking and double parking illegal? I believe the power to do so was eventually devolved.
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Today's Rubbish Parking...
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Posted 7 years ago #
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They ran out of time at the end of the last parliament and so it was delayed into this parliament, and a new consultation went back out for it.
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What happened to the bill which was proposed in Holyrood to make pavement parking and double parking illegal? I believe the power to do so was eventually devolved.
Original bill was withdrawn, I think, but there was a recent consultation on a new bill, which finished in late June or early July. Not sure on what happens now.
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I participated in the latest consultation. IIRC there was an explanation at the beginning of the consultation questionnaire that the previous bill had to be withdrawn because the matter was, at the time, not devolved. The Scotland Act following the independence referendum brought it within the Scottish Government's scope, which allowed the issue to be revived.
(FWIW my responses all boiled down to either "just make it illegal" or "I have no idea and why is this even relevant?")
As for today's rubbish parking: white van parked half on the pavement on double yellows (with accompanying signs reading "no loading at any time") on Atholl Place near to Manor Place, completely blocking other four-wheeled traffic whenever a tram passed eastbound.
And while researching that on Google Maps, I found this example of execrable parking caught on the same stretch of road on Streetview in October 2016. Memo to self: if you ever need a skip, don't use Midlothian Skip Hire.
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I increasingly hold the belief that the most disruptive and congestion-producing element of today's car owning and motorised delivery society, is actually the parking more so than the driving around. Now, most roads are effectively parked on both sides, and with the fattening of cars, they block the available space and make many roads single lane only with passing places. This has an obvious impact on cycling but in particular, on the concept of quiet routes. Most quiet routes are effectively single lane and therefore pretty intimidating for cycling on when you meet a vehicle coming the other way, or when one is revving behind trying to get past.
I have no idea what the solution to this is in the present climate of transport policy, but I would like to see a Tokyo style policy where you can't own a car unless you can show you have an off-street parking place.
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I have no idea what the solution to this is in the present climate of transport policy
I have previously posted somewhere that the cost for parking your vehicle on a public road by permit should be proportional to not just to the amount it pollutes but also to the footprint area it takes up. A scheme which gives cheap/free permits for gigantic SUVs just because they masquerade as "hybids" really doesn't help in that respect.
Of course the charges have to be sufficiently punitive to make people consider smaller cars.
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@ih - I was thinking that this morning when wriggling my way up Harrison Road. Both I & the internal combusting ones could have travelled smoothly & efficiently if some idiots hadn't left load of steel boxes by the side of the road.
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@Rosie, my thoughts exactly today in the exact same place as an idiot drove, at speed, basically directly at me ferrying child to nursery because the speed bumps are there to practise slalom skills, and with the narrow road that's the net result.
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Forest Road all mangled up with buses, coaches and stuff. Not helped by the huge faux-by-four sitting in the advisory cycle lane, occupied (see what I did there) by two cops eating lunch out of Greigs.
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Giant tourist coach unloading luggage while parked in the cycle lane, on double yellows, and half on the pavement, outside the G&V hotel on G4 Bridge. Discussions were ongoing with a parking warden, but I didn't see any sign of a ticket being written.
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Half on the footway is an offence for Police to sort out - Section 19 RTA 1988 - illegal to drive or park vehicle of over 7.5T on a footway
Options also for parking & loading restrictions (CEC) and Section 129 .2 (obstruction) and 129.5 (driving on footway) of Roads Scotland Act 1984 (Police)
If you get operators name (NOT always livery on the coach) it can also be an idea to drop a note to the Scottish Traffic Commissioner who regulates operators licences
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Meanwhile, in Portobello...
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amen, ih.
I would like to know how the novotel on Lauriston Place ever got permission to build without including coach parking. they have a massive paved pedestrian area, which could easily have accommodated a pull in for a coach or 3 taxis. so they all use the start of the cycle lane instead...
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Leith Walk/Pilrig St. Common occurrence there, unfortunately...
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Porto & Fi this morning, although could be any morning
1. More than 50% on the pavement - check.
2. On a roundabout - check.
3. Front wheel on a manhole cover that is most surely not designed to take that weight - check.
4. On double yellow - check."I'll only be a minute" he said, plus he had his hazards on, so it's probably fine.
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Bidfood have plenty of form. This particular lorry has also been spotted plenty of times on Forrest Road loading during restricted times both on an off the pavement:
https://twitter.com/mcdoggydog/status/923844488900079617
https://twitter.com/mcdoggydog/status/812226786620829696
https://twitter.com/mcdoggydog/status/797000919422476288
https://twitter.com/mcdoggydog/status/789415328090431488Posted 6 years ago # -
You see a car, especially a modern SUV thing and you think, "they are massive and stable" but then you see them on their side or whatever and wonder "are they stupidly unstable?" or "were they moving energetically enough that flipping them wasn't that hard?". The flippability of cars always blows my mind.
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Drivers can't seem to stop hitting a giant rock in a suburban parking lot, despite it being an inanimate object surrounded by yellow-painted curbs.
Rock should be wearing a helmet.
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@Iain McR: Front wheel on a manhole cover that is most surely not designed to take that weight - check
FWIW, pavements aren't designed to take that weight either. ECC did publish a leaflet a while back which included that amongst the myriad other reasons why parking on the pavement is a sh!t idea. No idea what happened to it but I'd love to stick one under the wiper of my neighbour who always parks his massive 4litre smallc*ckmobile on the pavement outside his house, despite having space on his drive alongside his rather more compact 4litre smalld*ckcoupe. (And this is the guy who sued the council after his wife tripped over a damaged bit of pavement outside his house, and complains about the 'extortionate' amount of council tax he has to pay. To quote Homer Simpson: "Why do my actions have consequences?")
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West Midlands traffic police continue to set the example for every other force:
https://mobile.twitter.com/wmpolice/status/937947141028368384
"PARKING: We've launched an operation targeting motorists who park their vehicles dangerously and inconsiderately. 86 drivers were prosecuted yesterday in #Birmingham. We'll be running the operation across the West Midlands."
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Two large box vans and a small van joining forces to completely block the top of Leamington Terrace yesterday lunchtime.
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ejstubbs, you could always print a page or two out and leave then under his wiper.
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Shared use pavement at Fort Kinnaird being used as a car park:
No yellow lines - that makes this the police's responsibility rather than the council's, right?
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the same (SJ66 NPV) Bidfood lorry parked in a bus stop this morning on Hanover St, forcing bus passengers to alight/discharge in the middle of the road. Traffic backed up over George St and down to Queen with the classic yellow box sitting drivers resulting in Queen St being blocked.
How can it be possible for the same offenders to do it day in / day out without any recriminations ??
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Bidfood seem to come up a lot in these sorts of discussions don't they?
I feel like they might need some public embarrassment.
Posted 6 years ago # -
Vehicles double parked on the pavement on Drum Street. Yes, two vehicles, side by side, both with all four wheels on the pavement.
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