I'm not really sure where you mean when you say northbound cycleway on Melville Drive.
Do you mean the painted cycle lane on Melville Drive, or Middle Meadow Walk?
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Today's Rubbish Parking...
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Posted 5 years ago #
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@neddie
quintessential edinbro location you posted there !
- pavement van parkers on the build-oot ootside bobbys
- illegal right-turn wide-boys onto candlemaker row (often group4 sheriff court prisoner transit van-dals)
- general feckwittery around greyfriars bobby with occasional tourist fatality due to insufficient moto-deference
the full triple whammy hat-trickPosted 5 years ago # -
ach, broke the joint again
auld tinymce list element minus ul parent
fixed
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@frenchy - you're right - I meant the north side (towards Newington) painted cycle way on the road on Melville Dr. Don't know where northbound came from. Just an observation really, guess it's technically not illegal to park there
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Unfortunately not, no.
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@bax
Fixed. Transfixed.
Posted 5 years ago # -
That cycle lane is useless most of the time - it's almost always got various cars parked in it, and vehicles are generally good at sticking to 20 mph there, making it awkward for cyclists to change lanes and pass parked cars.
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@edinburghCycl
I believe a plan was mentioned at PY today, dnnn, dnnnn, dnnnn
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"The livid law lecturer argued he was parked on a different patch of tarmac to the pavement, but two appeals failed – so he plans to ask for a judicial review."
Diddums has the begging bowl out as well - has garnered £40 of his 15k target - quel dommage.
"Anyone wishing to donate to Mr Newell’s fundraising page can visit https://www.gofundme.com/judicial-review-of-edinburgh-parking-charge-notice and make a payment to his cause."
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A law lecturer is actually trying to argue that he thought it was a parking space, despite having drive over double yellow lines, bump up a kerb and stop on a semi-circular area of mono-block. Presumably the guy that taught Lionel Hutz.
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I could understand his point if there wasn't a kerb. But there is and it's clearly a pavement. I wonder if the double yellow lines have always been there.
Good to see someone getting booked for pavement parking, perhaps something that can be done across the whole city.
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There are drop kerbs to access the parking bays, but a full pavement on the pavement side he parked on. Surely this keen-eyed bloke should have spotted that vital difference (or felt it as he mounted the kerb).
He's nothing but a chancer with an overdeveloped sense of entitlement.
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@wishicouldgofaster: "Good to see someone getting booked for pavement parking"
He got booked for parking on a double yellow, hence why it's a £60 council parking penalty. You can't get round parking restrictions by parking on the footway rather than the carriageway (thank god): parking restrictions apply to the whole of the road* unless otherwise indicated.
Currently the only way to get done for parking on the footway per se is if you are judged to be causing an obstruction. That requires a police officer to issue the ticket (and the fines can be lot higher than a simple parking ticket - up to £1,000).
* Which includes the footway, and cycle lanes segregated or otherwise. It's not just where Important People In Cars drive - are you listening Mr Grayling?
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@Morningsider: his LinkedIn profile suggests that his experience is in hospitality rather than law.
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I live in the estate in question - it is indeed, quite obviously, a pavement. There are a few repeat offenders, and some who know which bits of the pavement are "ok" (due to the lack of double yellows beside them), and which are very rarely, and randomly enforced. To answer an earlier question, that bit has always been double yellow.
He's been "unlucky" and had his car parked on the one day there's been enforcement. He needs to get over it/himself.
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@Stickman - I suppose I should know better than to trust the Chipwrapper.
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ok, how about this beauty. Leith Walk this morning.
Coop's initial response included "however, there are vehicles parked in the bay where the lorry should be.".
reversing an artic onto a pavement - thats a job for a professional driver.
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What did the subsequent responses say?
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oh, they are taking it very seriously indeed
"As mentioned - we apologise and understand your concerns. Hence why we have shared your comments with the transport team to prevent it happening again. The lorry shouldn’t be there. ^Yasmin"
I am sure we will never see another Coop lorry on a pavement ever.
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Important to understand the consequences for the driver if they failed to make the delivery on time.
Not everyone has a cozy employment contract with a handbook and documented processes/sympathetic managers and HR. Some folk get binned if they don't JFDI day in, day out.
I think a lot of what we see is down to frightened people operating dangerous machines on tenuous terms.
Posted 5 years ago # -
Parking and Bus Lane Tribunal. Jeez is that an actual thing? Cost more to run a tribunal than generate via parking tickets?
Posted 5 years ago # -
@iwrats: We have vicarious liability for land owners if their employees commit wildlife crime. About time it was brought in for employers of delivery vehicle drivers too?
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@ejstubbs
I like it but it has to cover non-employees. Yodel are on 50p per successful delivery.
(Also the The Wildlife and Natural Environment (Scotland) Act 2011 has now only been applied successfully once I think.)
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@Frenchy: "His argument is that the brickwork makes it look like the place he parked (on the right) is an actual parking bay (like on the left)."
Looking at the Streeview shot again, the monobloc areas on the other side of the road are actually people's driveways, providing access to their garages, not 'parking bays'. I suspect he'd get pretty short shrift from the residents if he tried to park there, and he knows it.
I suspect what's he's trying to argue is that where he parked is indistinguishable from these actual parking bays just to the right of where he parked (EDIT: or even these ones the other side of the tree). The flaws in that argument would be (i) there is no kerb between those parking bays and the carriageway - not even a dropped kerb: the parking bays are at the same level as the carriageway, whereas there are kerbs separating the parking bays from the footway, and (ii) there are no yellow lines there, because you are allowed to park there (if you parked on the carriageway blocking the parking bays then you would/could get done for obstruction).
threefromleith has it right: nothing but a chancer with an overdeveloped sense of entitlement (on which subject, his crowdfunding appeal has now raised £180. What's that you say? A fool and his money...?)
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I don't have a car or a pending court case. What can I do that will get people to give me money anyway?
Posted 5 years ago # -
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Fairly typical Drum St evening parking. I just managed to squeeze through the gap there with the dogs the other night.
Despite having seen me (and given the "Aye, sorry, but it was completely unavoidable" wave), the driver started driving as we were still squeezing past.
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So he's not actually a law lecturer. I guess it's not a case of those who can do and those who can't...
Posted 5 years ago # -
Two for the price of one this morning at the top of Haymarket Yards. First off, this unmarked white van was parked as far on to the pavement as possible without actually having all four wheels on it, completely blocking it in the process:
And but a few feet behind it, a PHS van had performed the same trick, but managed to position itself so as to prevent the tram from passing as well:
(You can't easily tell from the photo, but the tram was stationary and sounding its inadequate horn rather plaintively. It was still stuck there five minutes later when I got to the office and looked out from a rear window to check.)
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