@ejstubbs Tell me they towed it away? Obstructing both pavement and tram must surely be cause for actual action.
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Today's Rubbish Parking...
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Cracker of a "case study" here. Thanks God for the EENs fearless journalism :)
"She said: “I can understand why the council are introducing the charges, especially with Edinburgh getting busier and more residential in the city centre, but I do feel that charging people visiting family or friends will put them off coming”. “My mum and dad usually visit a few times a month and Sunday is generally when they visit. Of course they have options, but they would prefer to drive and the thought of having to pay that extra fee will maybe make them think twice.”
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'they would prefer to drive'
This.
If only some other options were available.Posted 5 years ago # -
I simply don't understand why Sunday should be treated as a special case.
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@Snowy: "If only some other options were available."
To be fair, Ms Baird is also quoted as saying "of course they have options". What is left glaringly unsaid is: "but they don't like any of them".
£30 to park in the city centre vs two £4 day tickets from a park and ride (£3.40 if you just buy a return - and you can knock off the cost of fuel saved by parking further out) should surely swing the balance if cost is really that much of an issue.
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They should scrap parking permits, the subsidy is economically and environmentally sub optimal. As people may live in the centre and work out of town. If they got rid of permits parking may encourage better land use, as people working in centre would live in the centre etc. permits may create congestion.
People living in Edinburgh could keep their car at park and ride and have bikes vans and taxis only from Haymarket Leitch walk to Morningside. There could be one lane for taxis and vans on a one way system and another lane spilt in to a two direction bike lane. When Dundee pedestrian the centre a couple of decades ago you if lived I the centre could then get permit for a multi-story car park outside the centre.
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Does the cost of resident parking tangibly affect people's choice of where to live? Almost certainly not, since it's currently such a minor cost by comparison. And so regardless of whether a street has free parking such as the outer city areas, or resident permits closer in, we're clogged with parked cars.
It's astonishing when you look at a satellite map and work out how much land is being taken up by parked metal boxes.
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The cost of parking may not currently make a difference as subsidised but If people in George street had to pay the real cost of £10,000 a year, then it may make a difference yes. To rent a space around the centre would cost a lot of money. The prices are very high in the center.
https://www.gumtree.com/p/garage-parking-to-rent/parking-space-edinburgh-west-end-eh3/1332339782
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Indeed. Perhaps a resident permit should include a house-price component. Although arguably it does but just homogenised across the zone. Agreed though that they are just way too cheap to nudge behaviour changes.
Shame that the permits no longer realistically encourage lower-polluting choices, despite the tiers (c.f. argument on whether people prefer to poison the atmosphere with CO2 or other people with particulates)...again the permit cost is irrelevant compared with running cost of a car.
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Resident parking permits should be sold by Dutch auction.
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You'd just get complaints about another process being offshored.
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Trees 0 Car Park 1
Fergus Ewing under fire for ‘conflict of interest’ over felled pinewood
"FCS had recently taken legal action against Watt over an area of ancient woodland that had been felled without a licence at Carrbridge. Native semi-natural woodland, including a 140-year-old Scots pine, had been cut down on a Sunday in January 2018, he said.
The case has been reported to the procurator fiscal as an illegal felling under the Forestry Act (1967) and is awaiting consideration by them. FCS has also issued an EIA (Environmental Impact Assessment) enforcement notice on Mr and Mrs Watt, the owners of Carrbridge Hotel, requiring the replanting of the site.”
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Ewing is an utter wretch. Hereditary politicians - Kinnock, Sarwar, Ewing and half of the Tory party really are uniquely awful.
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A couple more examples for you:
Winston Churchill
Hilary Benn
Boris Johnson(I intend no comment on the awfulness or otherwise of any of the above, leaving that as an exercise for the reader should they so wish.)
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Always depressing to see a police van blocking the filtered permeability on Gayfield Square.
Tweeted, but couldn't think of anything witty to say.
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Spotless Cleaning van perched on the footway on the inside of the lower bend between Starbank/Lower Granton Road on Wednesday, with a shopfitters' white van in the same place but wider yesterday.
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Rented van parked with everything on the footway bar the two offside wheels, immediately in front of the traffic lights controlling the exit from the Haymarket station drop-off area. Wholly within the ASL area, as well as (of course) being on double yellows (and it's "no loading at any time" there).
Another classic example of parking so as not to inconvenience other motor vehicle users, and stuff the rest of the world. Or, perhaps more likely, just stuff the rest of the world anyway because as far as I am concerned I'm more important than any of you.
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Are the Police likely issue a FPN for a vehicle parked on white zig-zag lines of a pedestrian crossing at the front of a primary School? https://photos.app.goo.gl/EovE4DZPpZ5TZnqR8
Trying to decide whether it is worth reporting.
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Highway Code Rule 243 is a "DO NOT" rather than a "MUST NOT" (cf Rule 240 reference the zig-zag lines either side of pedestrian crossings). So I'd say probably not, unfortunately.
It does seem odd, given that the markings appear so similar.
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I think they are, yes.
At worst, they are likely to deal with it in the same way as they do with pavement obstructors: phone the owner and tell them to shift it. They are then quite likely to try and get an officer to go past later and check if it's shifted, or phone you back and ask if you know whether it's still there.
EDIT: @ejstubbs - those zig zags are for a pedestrian crossing just out of sight.
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If the zig-zags are white and related to a crossing, then it's a 'MUST NOT park' cf rule191, and enforceable by police; in theory could be a fine/points. Worth reporting a repeat offender? But good luck getting any action taken for an isolated occurrence.
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Thanks, yes it is a pedestrian crossing, so covered under rule 240. I'll report and see what they do and add it to those the local residents association collect to raise with the police.
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@Frenchy: Sorry, I missed that in davidsonsdave's post. (And IIRC the zig-zags purely for outside a school are supposed to be yellow, not white.)
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The driver hollered out the window that I didn't need to take a photo and could just use the pavement on the other side of the road.
Sky's twitter are "sorry for any inconvenience"...
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@rust: piccy no worky
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Three ignorant/obstructive shopfitters' vehicles parked at the corner of Lower Granton Road/McKelvie Parade this morning.
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Large white van parked with the engine running in the middle of the Innocent tunnel,whilst its driver poked at his phone, unaware of the ability of stone and soil to block mobile signals, the lack of ventilation in the tunnel and the width of his van relative to the path.
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Police remove cars parked across junction shocker!
I phoned 101 this morning to report some frequent pavement parkers.
Just had a call back from Police Scotland saying "Parking is a council matter, so we won't be dealing with this".
One step forward...
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From the Hadden Rankin employee, in a marked vehicle, double parked on Leith Walk, blocking the cycle lane, and who then stepped out into traffic without looking to get into the car.
Plus a bonus second driver who was half double parked and half on double reds, close to obstructing the dropped kerb.
I tweeted the company since their contact form takes you to an HTTP 404 page.
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