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  1. Frenchy
    Member

    I tweeted the company since their contact form takes you to an HTTP 404 page.

    Works for me: https://www.haddenrankin.com/contact/contact-form.aspx

    Might be worth doing if they don't respond on twitter.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. dessert rat
    Member

    was musing earlier on way home. If I cant daydream on a bike then when can i.

    The Purge: CEC Pavement Parking Edition.

    Plot outline.

    In an America Edinburgh wracked by parking crime and overcrowded prisons pavements, City of Edinburgh Council (CEC) the government has sanctioned an annual 12 24-hour period in which any and all criminal activity against pavement parking, parking on double yellows, double parking and retrospective close-passes including murder becomes legal. The police can't be called. Hospitals suspend help. It's one day when the citizenry regulates itself without thought of punishment, a period plagued by violence and an epidemic of crime against inconsiderate parking, one man, one tory Councillor stands proud ..etc and so on….

    Has anyone got a number or email address for Spielberg ??

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @Iain McR

    That's my solution to tax evasion and avoidance. The state you won't pay for steps back from your life.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. ejstubbs
    Member

    @Frenchy: I phoned 101 this morning to report some frequent pavement parkers.

    Just had a call back from Police Scotland saying "Parking is a council matter, so we won't be dealing with this".

    My understanding is that they are wrong about this: pavement parking is obstruction (since it's still not an offence in itself, yet, except for HGVs) which I understood was a police matter, which is why local authority parking wardens don't/can't do anything about it.

    More than happy to be corrected by a knowledgeable person, though.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. Stickman
    Member

    White van parked in the temporary bus stop at the Tesco on Haymarket Terrace. The driver of the 26 bus just stopped diagonally across him to let passengers off and then took his time driving off. The van driver was angrily waving his hands as it stopped him driving away. It made me chuckle.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. dougal
    Member

    @ejstubbs Pavement parking/obstruction is legally the jurisdiction of whichever party you're not currently in communication with.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. Frenchy
    Member

    @ejstubbs - You are absolutely correct. I got another phone call from Police Scotland confirming that.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. ejstubbs
    Member

    @frenchy: So does that mean that they are going to do something about it? Or was it more along the lines of: "Sorry, it is down to us but we can't be <rule 2>ed to do anything about it"?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  9. Frenchy
    Member

    I was told to report future incidents to 101. Doing so in the past has generally led to the owners being phoned and asked to shift the vehicle, which they always do. Some return to parking it on the pavement the next day, of course. Not yet discovered what actions might be taken against frequent offenders...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. wishicouldgofaster
    Member

    Pavement parkers can be done by the police if they create an obstruction. They will act if a wheelchair, buggy or pram cannot get passed. Unsure if they actually prosecute the drivers though.

    I've had a few successes in my mum's street in Clermiston.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  11. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    @Frenchy I mean the page directs to a 404 error when you submit the form.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. Frenchy
    Member

    Ah, that is a problem, I didn't check that.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  13. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    Two seperate vehicles within 100m of each other, both parked on zig-zags on Holyrood Road a few minutes ago.

    https://twitter.com/Lollercake/status/1126818977748017152

    https://twitter.com/Lollercake/status/1126819340169433088

    Edinburgh First are on twitter, so I've @'ed them. I can't find Booker Direct though.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. LivM
    Member

    Slow claps and taking hat off to the driver who had managed to park their Kia in a position to take up two spaces IN THE PARENT/CHILD zone at Craigleith Sainsbury's. i.e. they had parked completely over the dividing hatched area between the two actual spaces.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. LivM
    Member

    And a grumpy boo hiss to the Discovery driver who had parked on the pavement at the top of Craigleith Rise at ESMS school run this morning at a point where the pavement is massively narrowed by a thick and bushy hedge so there's hardly enough space for a buggy to get by even without a pavement parker and their pals.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    Good response from Edinburgh First:
    Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Our Head of Catering will be speaking with the driver on Monday morning to emphasise that parking in this manner is not acceptable in anyway. He will also be referring him to the extensive training and handbook he should adhere to.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. wishicouldgofaster
    Member

    I had to chuckle this morning cycling over Ravelston where there is a parking lane. Yep you've all guessed right - 9 vehicles parked all partly on the pavement. Why?!

    Posted 5 years ago #
  18. Frenchy
    Member

    Someone on Drum Street tonight was:

    * blocking the pavement
    * on double yellow lines
    * in a junction box (and so also within 10m of a junction)
    * in a bus stop

    all at the same time! Four in one is almost admirable. Struggling to think how it could be beaten?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  19. dessert rat
    Member

    @ Frenchie - magic flashers on ?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  20. Frenchy
    Member

    No. Not sure if that makes it better or worse...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  21. piosad
    Member

    Went for a second tilt at the Christian Aid book sale at lunchtime today, and parked my bike next to a white van in the middle of George Street. When I came back, the van's door was open and the two occupants were having a well-deserved nap in the front seat. Surely that's not quite what is meant by deluxe hotel accommodation in Edinburgh city centre?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  22. jonty
    Member

    "No. Not sure if that makes it better or worse..."

    Better, to be honest. The misuse of hazard warning lights really annoys me - if the inside one is obscured it looks like you're indicating to come out. I've no idea how it's meant to help with anything other than avoiding a ticket (and even then, I doubt it.)

    A further problem occurred to me driving along the A84 a few weeks ago. We came across a car accident with the police in attendance and directing traffic. The layout of the road meant that following cars might not be able to see what was going on, so the car in front of me (correctly) used their warning lights to indicate that they were slowing for a hazard, as did I. However, it occurred to me that the use of hazards in cities to mean "I'm going to stop here or do something else weird, go past me" is the complete opposite of what they're meant to mean in this situation and could be very dangerous if misinterpreted in this way. I think people still 'get it' on country roads...but for how much longer?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  23. Frenchy
    Member

    Driver of a Transit van offered to fight me when I asked if the pavement was the best place for him to park.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  24. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    https://www.twitter.com/Lollercake/status/1134193381679280128

    Driver managed to occupy the entire width of the pavement with their car, forcing pedestrians to walk in the road to go around.

    The driver appeared to still be in the car, I've no idea what they thought they were doing.

    This was at about 8pm (on Minto Street), when the bus lanes aren't on - and even if they were, the driver would cause less of an obstruction in the road where they belong...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  25. neddie
    Member

    Meadows being abused as a car park today. None of these cars are related to the fairground, they are all visitors. And when I passed by later, it had got worse, stretching all the way to Brougham St.

    Untitled by Ed, on Flickr

    Untitled by Ed, on Flickr

    Untitled by Ed, on Flickr

    Untitled by Ed, on Flickr

    Posted 5 years ago #
  26. gembo
    Member

    Can they not be given parking tickets? Somewhat shocking that people might think this is ok, just because another person has done it.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  27. neddie
    Member

    TBF, wardens were giving tickets to some of the cars parked on Melville Drive itself. I don’t think any of the cars shown parked on the grass got tickets.

    How far away from the double-yellows do you have to be before they don’t give you a ticket?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  28. Stickman
    Member

    Anyone fancy a game of football on the Meadows near these cars?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  29. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    Can they not be given parking tickets?
    Edinhelp replied to someone on Twitter (I forget who, I'm pretty sure it's someone here) about a car parked on the shared use path, saying that it's not restricted parking, so they can't do anything about it. I assume the same goes for someone parked on the meadows itself.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  30. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Council needs to see it dealt with as part of licensing for subsequent years' festivals then?

    Posted 5 years ago #

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