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Today's Rubbish Parking...
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Posted 3 years ago #
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£675 000 for a temporary car park with 450 spaces.
£675 000 would buy 1125 annual ridacards from Lothian Buses. More if, as I suspect would be possible, a bulk discount could be negotiated.
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provision/prioritisation
Except it’s not today, or likely to be changed any time soon -
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More than five times as many people as usual in the UK put diesel in their petrol engine or vice versa
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Once again, every one of the properties adjacent to that location has a driveway (albeit for the modern red brick ones you have to go round the back - and there is visitor parking there as well). But no, obviously, for a van driver the only possible option is to park on the DYLs.
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Gilmore place. in temp lights queue.
Car pulls out of garage next to nursery, drives along pavement blocking it. followed by second car, which likewise drives along with two wheels on the very narrow pavement. third car then pulls up and parks with one wheel on pavement (driver goes to nursery door).
I finally lose my cool and take out my phone to take pictures. Driver leaps out of first car, followed by pal from second car to accuse me of illegally taking pictures. Then of being racist for taking pictures of them, but not of (white) nursery dad. Lots of shouting and blocking cars ensues.
Eventually third guy comes out, tells them to stop shouting at me and to go back to work. says they're just trying to do their job.
I've ridden past these guys every day for over 10 years. I know what they do, and I have never before complained. But one little photo and suddenly they are dancing in fury and dodging busses.
Insane.
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@SRD: "...to accuse me of illegally taking pictures". Nonsense like this is never a good start to an attempt at a rational argument.
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I watched a traffic warden advise three separate drivers that if they remained in the bus stop, he would have to ticket them.
I had no idea the wardens were so kind.
(2nd and 3rd drivers moved immediately, first driver shrugged, put the ticket in his pocket. Carried on his day, later returned to eat a meal in the car, read, then drove off. At no point did he bother to reverse the two feet that was needed to make his parking legal.
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In case anyone's interested, the council's enforcement protocol says:
"Vehicles should be moved on if the driver is present. If the driver is not present, or if the driver refuses to move, the Parking Attendant will issue an instant Penalty Charge Notice."
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https://twitter.com/Wisob1/status/1448709396301758477
Today's illegal parking on Gorgie Road: HK18 RDZ parked on double red lines and the pavement, when there's a loading bay in front of the next shop.I didn't report it on the council portal and it was gone when I went past later... whoever occupies that unit always parks on the pavement outside the shop when they are there - but they are not there very often at all.
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The other day I witnessed the driver of an Amazon van heading southbound on Comiston Road veer off between two lane defenders and park half on the footway, half completely blocking the cycle lane. This was about ten yards short of one of the marked parking bays which at the time contained just one car.
What can be done to disabuse drivers of this notion that they always have to park right outside the premises they are visiting?
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My observations lead me to believe that they'd rather park illegally, making it a police matter (and therefore safe from any consequences), instead of parking in a bay and risking a ticket from the traffic warden.
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Pretty much the whole length of the Comiston Road cycle lanes in both directions is marked with DYLs, which are included in the Decriminalisation of Parking Enforcement (DPE) which has been in force in Edinburgh since 1998. So you can't avoid a penalty notice from the local authority traffic wardens by parking on DYLs rather than not paying for parking in a meter bay.
More to the point in this case is the fact the the Comiston Road parking bays are free to use at any time - which is why there are no yellow lines next to the parking bays, otherwise you wouldn't be able to park there (cf the parking bays near the Hermitage on Braid Road which do have DYLs, so only blue badge holders can park there*). So by parking on the DYLs the driver is risking a penalty notice which they could easily avoid by parking in the very adjacent parking bay.
For reasons arising from incompetence/secret lobbying/laziness/stupidity or whatever it's not actually illegal to park in a mandatory cycle lane. Which is why the cooncil had to install DYLs along most of the length of the Comiston Road ones (and on Lanark Road IIRC), so that it is illegal to park in them - and it can be enforced by the council rather than the police.
AIUI, in local authority areas where DPE has been adopted, about the only parking offences left that the police can act on are parking such as to cause an obstruction, and blue badge offences. It's my understanding that police traffic wardens have been largely done away with across most of the UK including Scotland, meaning that such offences have to be dealt with by police officers. In local authority areas which have not opted to adopt DPE, the withdrawal of police traffic wardens means that parking regulations in such areas are left largely unenforced.
* Though I can't recall ever seeing anyone parked in those bays, not even the grey van that always used to park illegally right next to the gateway into the Hermitage when that stretch of Braid Road was supposedly closed to motor vehicles altogether.
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@ejstubbs - the grey van now parks just inside the Hermitage itself, rather than on the road. Whoever it is must have a key/code to open the barriers, as they park just the other side of them.
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Hampshire Constabulary said the crash was not being treated as suspicious and no arrests were made.
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Street parking takes up space and incentivizes driving. New curb management companies are trying to help cities better use this space
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/nov/05/us-free-parking-spaces-climate-cost
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Curb the kerb?
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She added that some parents had become abusive after being told by staff to respect the parking restrictions, which are in place under Travelling Safely measures. The school has now forwarded details of reports by local residents, including photos, to the Police.“
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Battle lines drawn
I can park where I like even if it endangers children including. My own children.
Surely the Park Where You Like Brigade will not win this one?
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They generally have.
All about enforcement (and lack of).
Fine and crush.
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It’s all about ‘the laws applies to other people’.
‘It’s only a small thing, doesn’t matter’.
‘I pay road tax’.
‘My child is more important than yours’.
‘Everyone does it’.
‘I’m in a hurry’.
‘I’m so oppressed’
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Not the specific battle outside schools? Risking the lives of their own children the stoopid Fox.
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Not quite parking but probably fits here.
Bonnington road eastbound on approach to Pilrig Street junction. The road is narrowed significantly by parking on the approach to the junction and a recovery van double parked with a presumably broken down car in front of it. The right-turning traffic is queuing back so there's only a tiny gap through with other traffic can proceed requiring a sharp left turn. I see a van ahead attempt this only to stop suddenly before proceeding very slowly and when I arrive I understand why - the RAC man is lying on the ground in front of the broken down car doing something to it!
I assume you get to know your safety margins with this sort of thing, but I certainly wouldn't trust rush hour Edinburgh traffic with that kind of thing.
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@jonty, well either you get to know the safety margins over time or err, you don’t.
Was out at lunch time on little country lane above Balerno Called The Rig Road
Raining
Two cars in the distance one too fat for the road. I stopped on the verge as it wasn’t slowing down
Taking no prisoners I believe is the expression
Followed by slightly narrower car that did fit the road and actually had space for me to pass but it stopped to let me pass, I saluted the person driving it,
Seems the fatter the car the fatter the bar steward driving it?
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“If you’re not there before 8.30am there aren’t any spaces in the long-stay parking ones, and I start at 9am, so I’ve just decided to park 10 minutes away and walk because it’s less time.
“It’s just a bit stressful in the mornings, it means I have to leave a lot earlier. I guess a lot of patients could lose their appointments if they can’t get in.”
One patient, who asked not to be identified, says he now gets a bus to Ninewells for appointments instead.
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Police van parked half on the pavement here this morning. As a result the pavement would be impassable to anyone with a buggy or wheelchair.
When I say 'parked' I don't left where it stopped when its occupants ran off in pursuit of ne'er-do-wells, with blue lights still flashing. I mean placed there as a considered and deliberate act of vehicle storage (presumably because there's no room in the police station car park).
Not really good enough, quite honestly.
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If only there were large car park somewhere nearby that the police had exclusive use of...
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