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  1. dougal
    Member

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/18/village-vigilante-informs-illegally-parked-cars-dubbed-prat/

    "Village vigilante who informs on illegally parked cars dubbed a 'prat' by furious traders"

    But where will I park my car if I can't park it illegally?!?!?!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. jules878
    Member

    Approx 6.15pm this evening I waited in ASZ at traffic lights at bottom of Morrison Street for ages for a tram to pootle through.

    The tram proceeded but then stopped. Lights changed. All those with four or more wheels (and tram) were stuck.

    I squeezed along to find a small delivery or removal lorry parked on both the cycle lane and tram tracks just about the entrance to Haymarket station drop off zone.

    Lorry was sitting there with back door open presume delivering something to someone, but not very clear to whom or where. No sign of driver or mate as I sailed through the "drop off zone" and exited onto a traffic fee - apart from me of course - Haymarket Terrace.

    Given traffic restrictions on Morrison Street no traffic could flow along Haymarket Terrace or Dalry Road cos of that rubbish parking.

    No idea how long that jam lasted ....!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  3. wingpig
    Member

    JCDecaux van on Dalry Road in the pokiest-out bit of the pokey-out bus stop by the charity furniture shop.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. piosad
    Member

    Two Smith & Sons coaches parked on the pavement under the Russell Road rail bridge. That's like bad parking bingo. Drivers standing outside glaring as me & child squeezed past so did not confront.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  5. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Fitba's on tonight piosad - that suspends traffic laws, didn't you know?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  6. algo
    Member

    I find this really annoying (Sciennes Place) - it's useful to nip down here from West Preston Street but you need to get the right line if you're pulling a trailer for example - this means you end up with whatever you're towing sticking vulnerably out in the traffic and potentially holding up other people. I think it's technically allowed on a Saturday, but I still find it inconsiderate...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  7. jonty
    Member

    Fully obstructing a road, regardless of whether it has bollards at the end or not, is never legal. Could do with double yellows anyway though, not sure what the single lines are meant to achieve.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  8. piosad
    Member

    To the driver of the lorry who decided it was a great idea to park not just on the zigzags but literally outside the back gate of Craiglockhart P.S. at 8.45am: are you serious?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  9. chrisfl
    Member

    piosad - you beat me to that post. To make matters worse, he was delivering to the school.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  10. Rob
    Member

    Granton Harbour gets worse every time I pass through:

    https://twitter.com/Rob_Earl/status/846634554244902912

    Posted 7 years ago #
  11. himupstairs
    Member

    Rob, that's 'Saltire Square', don't you know!

    It may eventually become a tram stop but until that time comes, it was intended as a civic space, with a shop or café in the bottom of the housing block. I'm fairly sure the paving was specified without frequent vehicle traffic in mind.

    Obviously these days 'civic space' translates as surface car park, but hohum.

    Another phase of housing and associated parking may be under construction soon (running north, parallel to and on the east side of 'the walk') so we'll see what effect that has.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  12. Ed1
    Member

    The statue in satire square is a a real and present danger first time I cycled that way I veered to avoid the staue to be greeted by some unsign posted steps

    Posted 7 years ago #
  13. chdot
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  14. Frenchy
    Member

    Cut up by a Delitalia lorry driver on Forrest Road, who then parked there despite single yellow line/no loading markings.

    "Ye cannae park there just noo"
    "Aye I can, pal"

    Well, he's probably right...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  15. ejstubbs
    Member

    @chdot: Ah, I did wonder what had happened to the proposal to make pavement parking illegal. I can't remember when I filled in an online consultation form about it but it must have been at least two years ago. It's a real annoyance round my way: cars and vans parked on the pavements of residential streets make it quite difficult to get around on foot sometimes. It's not as if they actually need to park on the pavement, I think they just do it "so as not to block the road" - so yeah, just block the frickin' pavement instead, ya muppet! All the roads round here are easily wide enough for two motor vehicles vehicles to pass safely, therefore wide enough for one motor vehicle to pass - carefully - another motor vehicle parked fully on the road. But oh no, that might involve a motor vehicle having to SLOW DOWN or even STOP occasionally <faints with horror>.

    From the article:

    Although it is illegal to drive on the pavement throughout England, Scotland and Wales, it is rarely enforced for drivers who park on the kerb, as councils and police fear the parking problem will just be displaced elsewhere.

    Displacing it off the footway on to the carriageway where it belongs would be a start IMO. Then more people might even start to notice that there actually is a problem with motor vehicle density within the current infrastructure provision and, you know, do something constructive about it??

    Posted 6 years ago #
  16. kaputnik
    Moderator

    This morning.
    Picture the scene. It's about 5 minutes to 9 and the usual madness of school-run selfishness outside Gylemuir school. It's pouring with rain and it's heavily overcast.

    There's a raised crossing table (but no lights/patrol) directly outside the school gate. There's a car parked across it. Of course, it's a BMW, a white one. As I approach, I notice a movement behind it, it's a wee boy who is about to make a bolt across the road. So I come to a stop and wave the boy to safely cross the road. I see that there's someone in the Beamer, so I say in surprisingly polite terms that it was a really stupid place to park. The window rolls down.

    "Eh!"
    "Whit?"

    I reply that its a very silly and dangerous place to park, that I couldn't see the boy trying to cross until it was nearly too late and if it was a car that had been coming he might not be so lucky.

    "He's ma wee boy and he stopped anyway" (fortunately the said child has disappeared into the school and is not around to see his mother making a fool of herself).

    It doesn't matter said I, he was trying to cross behind a parked car, at a crossing, and that's dangerous, you should park some place else.

    The door opens a bit.

    "AH'M 9 MONTHS PREGNANT!" yells she.

    "Eh?! Whit?" replies I this time. At this point I didn't say anything further and just cycled off shaking my head.

    The mind really boggles. It doesn't matter if you're 12 months pregnant (or have any other incapacity), if you're capable to drive your car to drop off the child, you can do so somewhere safe considering that you had no intention of exiting the vehicle. That you would put your own child at risk is 1 thing, you may think that's your decision to make, but what about the other children who have to cross there and what about any driver or cyclist who would have their life turned upside down if they hit a child outside a school due to your selfishness.

    Outside a school is no place for a shouting match, but I was seething with anger at this woman's selfishness and pig-headed ignorance.

    I'll be writing the head of the school an email for what it's worth, I know that the school is well aware of the problems here and struggle to get anything done as the police turn up for a few days, everybody behaves, and then as soon as they're gone they go back to doing this.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  17. dougal
    Member

    Triple parking this morning including double-parked coaches, private hires, trades vehicles, delivery lorries - all congregating in the approximate vicinity of the Marriott Courtyard (near Playhouse). And by approximate I mean one of the lorries was slightly uphill of the pedestrian crossing just before the taxi rank, turning that stretch of road into a single lane.

    They do realise there's a road under there, not a series of parking spots - don't they?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  18. Klaxon
    Member

    The new rule of the road is that anything goes so long as 1 lane is clear and you're not in a permit parking bay.

    Everything else is clearly unenforced and it has been noticed.

    (Not hyperbole)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  19. Min
    Member

    Black cab parked in the St Leonard's supposedly segregated bike lane this evening.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  20. the canuck
    Member

    My favourite so far this week has been a black cabbie on his mid-afternoon break, blocking a driveway, presumably because all other parking was permit only.

    I wouldn't have cared, but it's the place that allows cyclists to enter/exit Inverleith park without bouncing off a kerb, or without dismounting to walk 1.5 metres.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  21. ejstubbs
    Member

    Caiystane Crescent two days ago:

    I was walking along the pavement on the other side of the road and watched the driver of the Audi carefully manoeuvring back and forth, presumably to ensure that she was occupying precisely the correct amount of the footway (as laid down by the Audi TT Owners' Club, no doubt).

    I chose not to tackle her about it because she looked like exactly the sort of self-obsessed and 'entitled' person who would use it as an opportunity to reinforce their estimation of their own self-worth by aggressively and pointlessly belittling someone else.

    Somehow, though, the photo (with a suitably scathing caption) did end up attached to my submission to the pavement parking consultation. Whoops.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  22. prog99
    Member

    An interesting one, what's the deal with the illegally parked tour buses outside that crap Chinese restaurant on Morrison street? Disruptive to not just cyclists either.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  23. SRD
    Moderator

    We have the same thing on Dundee st. I complained a lot. finally got sme enforcement. not traffic wardens. think council wrote to restaurant. hasn't been so bad lately.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  24. Snowy
    Member

    The unmarked long-wheelbase white Transit parked in full SMIDGAF mode completely on the pavement at the corner of Marchmont Road and Spottiswoode Road. Not at the edge in an apologetic 'there was nowhere else' kind of way, but perpendicular to the pavement, blocking about 90% of it.

    Highly likely to have been related to either the take-away (Happiee Daze?) or the coffee shop (Cobbs?) so I think I'll pop in and express displeasure.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  25. gembo
    Member

    @snowy, I go with DILLIGAF? In the scenario you describe.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  26. dougal
    Member

    @prog99 Isn't that Chop Chop on Morrison Street? That's about as authentic and tasty Chinese food I've eaten anywhere outside of China.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  27. Stickman
    Member

    @dougal - no, it's the one at the other end at the junction with Lothian road.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  28. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    @dougal

    As Stickman said - Rainbow Arch or something is the name. Chinese tour groups are churned through with alarming regularity. Think I'd be a bit miffed if I went on a tour to China and the operator insisted we go to a (perhaps not very good) fish and chip shop.

    Mind you, the tour buses are only one element of the all-day illegal parking smorgasbord on that side of the street.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  29. fimm
    Member

    In the new Dundee Street mandatory lane:
    20170703_210741

    Maybe we should have a new thread for those lanes, as the existing chat on here is buried in the "Operation Close Pass" thread?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  30. gembo
    Member

    you say manadatory but I say check out Ratcliffe Tce. ONly mandatory if traffic warden stands there all day stopping the shopkeepers parking on the double yellow

    Posted 6 years ago #

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