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  1. Arellcat
    Moderator

    @chdot, really??! That's yet another route I now can't use with the torpedo.

    The eastern barricade is completely anti-bike. I fail to see how cyclists of any sort can ride through carefully.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    "That's yet another route I now can't use with the torpedo."

    Perhaps.

    Let me know when you want to try and I'll bring a camera.

    Certainly very odd.

    There can't be that many cyclists who go that way.

    And there really aren't too many people walking there who don't use the pavements - not least because there are quite a lot of vehicle movements inc taxis and large old people movers.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  3. gembo
    Member

    Large old people movers you say?

    The flats are full of large old people, who need moved?

    The vans are large and old that move people?

    Which is it?

    Only joking, see my earlier very old teenage girl's bike

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    "The flats are full of large old people, who need moved?"

    There's an element of that, which might 'explain' the signs.

    "Only joking"

    We expect nothing less.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  5. neddie
    Member

    "Please respect our property"...

    ...by erecting a massive and brutally ugly yellow sign...

    "Cyclists should.. ..give way to pedestrians"

    Eh? You mean cyclists on the road should give way to pedestrians? But motor vehicles need not?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    "Eh? You mean cyclists on the road should give way to pedestrians? But motor vehicles need not?"

    Well exactly.

    I presume there has been 'an incident', but even so.

    At least 'cyclists' are after 'no dogs on the grass'.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  7. crowriver
    Member

    They wanted to add 'No travellers, gypsies, blacks or Irish' but were advised this was illegal.

    They missed a trick by leaving out 'No hawkers, door-to-door salesmen, charity collectors, Jehova's witnesses.'

    Posted 7 years ago #
  8. neddie
    Member

    I'm surprised they didn't build a wall and ask all those outside it to pay for it - seems to be de rigueur at the moment.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Keep Scotl Beautiful (@KSBScotland)
    26/01/2017, 11:11 am
    We're in Elgin today leading Fixed Penalty Notice training @TheMorayCouncil Did you know you the fine for littering & dog fouling is £80?

    http://pic.twitter.com/C0QfVhhcjO

    "

    But presumably not on private land?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  10. Morningsider
    Member

    These are the same people who planted lots of jaggy shrubs in the border facing Canaan Lane to stop P1 and 2 children running along the little wall on their way to the South Morningside infants annexe.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  11. neddie
    Member

    Oh, they do love their signs in that "community":

    https://goo.gl/maps/Uof2cwUEynp

    https://goo.gl/maps/R2ZpjnMBCZP2

    Posted 7 years ago #
  12. Arellcat
    Moderator

    I swung by Brunswick Road yesterday. This cut through is currently almost completely blocked by a couple of shipping containers, which really don't show up in the dark.

    https://goo.gl/maps/eFKWVDA8yL92

    Posted 7 years ago #
  13. Klaxon
    Member

    Did you like the jingle of the loose pavingstones as you rode over them? Quite musical.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    Posted 7 years ago #
  15. davidsonsdave
    Member

    Falcon Court appears to be a public road. As such, I wonder if the use of these signs and planters have been approved by the council.

    Low level planters are a problem as people aren't really looking out for them and they would be difficult to see in the dark. I had also thought that the guidance was that bollards should never be linked to each other which is the case with one of the signs and the signs might not be so visible from the back when it is dark.

    Does this arrangement not also cause problems for users of mobility scooters?

    I lived around the corner from here for 6 years and never went through that way on my bike or saw anyone going through there on a bike so would agree with chdot that there can't be that many cyclists who go that way.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  16. neddie
    Member

    You are right, davidsondave, that sign between the bollards is potentially dangerous.

    This incident springs to mind:
    http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/caernarfon-cyclist-rhodri-hughes-jones-died-9473909

    Posted 7 years ago #
  17. Frenchy
    Member

    https://www.fixmystreet.com/report/966772

    Someone (from here?) reported it to the council.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  18. algo
    Member

    @edd1e_h that is terribly sad.

    My Dad broke both his arms and a couple of ribs cycling into one of these at night:

    there is no street lighting there - I can confirm they are virtually invisible in the dark.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  19. davidsonsdave
    Member

    @Frenchy Ahem, [whistles innocently]

    Posted 7 years ago #
  20. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    @davidsonsdave Falcon Court is a private road, I believe.

    Would signs that size require planning permission, I wonder?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  21. jonty
    Member

    https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/directory_record/843978/falcon_court suggests it's unadopted

    Posted 7 years ago #
  22. davidsonsdave
    Member

    So are the residents liable for any injuries which occur to members of the public using this road? If so it would seem a bit daft to put something in place which increases the chances of injury.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  23. neddie
    Member

    The bollards on Waterfront Avenue have now been removed due to complaints from locals. They were there to protect people from cars/parking.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

  25. chdot
    Admin

    "

    BOLLARDS put in place to keep children safe following the death of a five-year-old school boy in Tollcross have been knocked down by careless drivers.

    "

    http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/15607810.Blow_for_Lennon_Toland__39_s_family_after_safety_bollards_are_damaged/

    Posted 7 years ago #
  26. crowriver
    Member

    Leith's bronze pidgeons have large concrete cousins in Tallinn, Estonia which act as bollards at certain spots on the edge of the old town, blocking access by motor vehicles while allowing pedestrians and bicycles through. They could be pidgins or arctic terns. I liked them a lot!

    (Click thumbnail for larger image)

    Posted 7 years ago #
  27. wangi
    Member

    Richard Demarco, signed up member of the Bollards Appreciation Society.

    http://movingimage.nls.uk/film/3069 @ 04:00

    Posted 6 years ago #
  28. chdot
    Admin

  29. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Was just about to post this.

    So judging by Street View, some selfish gits drive down the footpath AND bike lane and block the pavement to park outside (presumably) their residence. Collapsible bollards seem an entirely sensible of guaranteeing emergency access. How's a fire engine supposed to get past the current illegally parked cars?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin

    Absolute balderdash - "bollards could stop emergency vehicles reaching them". No, the main concern for residence is they'll no longer be able to park their car right outside their front door (on the pavement / cycle

    https://twitter.com/fountainbridge/status/1017317931733147648

    Posted 6 years ago #

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