That's going to help with St John's Road congestion.
How on earth would Manse Road cope with the additional traffic? Close it as a through route?
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"Waitress to open in Corstorphine" (aka Waitrose)
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Posted 11 years ago #
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Hah- funny title!
Posted 11 years ago # -
Oh, Waitrose...
/phew/
Mind-boggling moment now over.
Posted 11 years ago # -
I don't recall any specific traffic issues when it were Freshways. Are we saying that people are more likely to drive to Waitress than a down-at-heel little place like Freshways?
The hair products place next to the Centurion fight club used to be a Presto until they were bought by Safeway and moved along the road to where PC World is. Sainsburys was originally Willie Lows. The Co-op was on the High Street next to Corstorphine Inn. Then became a gym and then later after that converted to houses.
Posted 11 years ago # -
hope all you locals ask for some decent bike racks before it opens!
Posted 11 years ago # -
It's a cunning plan to hold up the Airlink bus even more in Corstorphine to force people onto the trams!
Posted 11 years ago # -
"Oh, Waitrose...
/phew/
Mind-boggling moment now over"
Oops, spell check fail!
Posted 11 years ago # -
Kaputnik:
Fair enough, wasn't trying to make a point about relative status of Waitrose v other shops.
I've only lived in Corstorphine/west Edinburgh since the late nineties so don't remember how the shops used to be. Just suggesting that building another supermarket with car parking facilities in a highly congested area may not be the best idea. Isn't there a separate thread currently expressing reservations about the redevelopment of St Jame's Centre and the potential extra traffic?
Posted 11 years ago # -
@Stickman oh I agree entirely with you - building new places for people to drive to in already congested and polluted High Streets is not a way to revive them. My comments were merely lighthearted remeiniscence about the de-supermarketisation and now re-supermarketisation of Corstorphine. And yes, Freshways was mainly patronised by little old Corstorphine ladies pulling shopping carts.
Posted 11 years ago # -
It's definitely a valid concern. You only have to look at the lovely pinch point which building out the pavement in front of the new Dundee Street Sainsbury's has created on an otherwise wide road. All parking for this potential 'Waitress' should be off-street and no parking should be permitted in front of the shop at all.
Posted 11 years ago # -
I attended the exhibition about this last week and, frankly, I can't see it working trafficwise. I've lived there for decades and am well acquainted with traffic flows, previous incarnations of various premises notwithstanding. The site in question was originally Fine Fare (complete with pink stamps!)but nobody drove there.
The top part of Manse Road is to be made two way and they fondly imagine that drivers wil be prepared to queue forever firstly to get out the car park and then again to get on to a stationary St John's Road rather than cut along Featherhall Terrace which, even with the present minimal use, is a bit of a dodgem run.
Posted 10 years ago # -
When we first moved to Corstorphine, the choice was William Low (where Blockbuster ended up) or Presto (next to the Centurion pub). These both had little car parks. Where Waitrose are planning to go was Woolworths and a supermarket called Freshways. Freshways had the reputation of being where the little old ladies went. My aspirational-type nouveau middle-class mother took us to Willie Lows before we later climbed the social ladder further to Safeway. As wealthy retirees with continental palates, they will probably now love the idea of Waitrose being so close for all their Essential Humous and Taramasalata needs.
Anyway, the point is that as Blueth says, nobody used to drive to Freshways / Finefare. The main reason we probably didn't go there was my mum could park (sometimes) outside Willie Lows, or at the worst park near the library and walk back up.
Waitrose would be much better placed where the MFI place is/was.
Posted 10 years ago # -
I seem to remember that Finefare had a small car park round the back that was rarely full, but then I remember when there was a cinema in Manse Road (where Iceland is now).
(And if you are looking for a laugh on a quiet day, check out the Centurion's archived website at http://web.archive.org/web/20050303234504/http://website.lineone.net/~cennywatchers/cam.htm )
Posted 10 years ago # -
Fine Fare lives, in a small town in the South Island called Hampden, it even has a rip off of the FF logo. Made me chuckle last time I drove down that way:
Ample parking mind you.
Posted 10 years ago # -
@MikeCrockart: Just got word that the planned Waitrose development in St John's Road, Corstorphine, definitely won't be going ahead.
"a shift in customer shopping patterns and changes in trading within the supermarket sector." is what I've been told.
Posted 10 years ago # -
Corstorphine not posh enough for Waitrose shock!
I'd imagine that the challenges of coming up with an acceptable plan for traffic could be the main factor.
Will be interesting to see what happens to that row of shops now. They look like they've been becoming increasingly run down in anticipation of the Waitrose. (Although the SNP opening a campaign shop right next door to Mike Crockhart's office there did amuse me greatly!)
Posted 10 years ago # -
Waitrose probably realised how many of their Stockbridge customers drive over from Corstorphine and didn't fancy poaching their own business?
Posted 10 years ago # -
My favourite North American supermarket is Overwaitee. Nobody walks there.
Posted 10 years ago # -
No parking might be a factor?
Posted 10 years ago # -
@gembo
Plan was to build parking on roof. And a turntable round back for delivery lorries.
My bet would be traffic.
Posted 10 years ago # -
Corstorphine isn't 'posh' anyway, my grandparents lived in Caroline terrace and its more suburbia than posh.
Not sure the criteria for a Waitrose area. There is one in Stirling that my mother in law shops at....but only an hour before closing for bargains.
Posted 10 years ago # -
Well there goes the price hike on my house from being within a mile of a Waitrose.
Posted 10 years ago # -
Not sure that applies anymore if they have opened in stirling?
Car park on roof, lorry turntable, that was never gonna happen
Posted 10 years ago # -
Friends of the earth have a very good objection to the current proposals for a Waitrose on this site, http://www.foe-scotland.org.uk/sites/www.foe-scotland.org.uk/files/Friends-of-the-Earth-Scotland-Objection-15-02898-FUL_0.pdf . Not sure how different this application is from the one they withdrew earlier in the year.
Posted 9 years ago # -
Planning docs link; https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=NQ734JEW09Z00
Posted 9 years ago # -
I guess the fact that there are 325 comments already mean that there are going to be a lot of objections! Comments need to be in by the end of the day (or possiby by 5pm).
Posted 9 years ago # -
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Developer Realis Estates, which had been working with Waitrose, made clear it was pressing ahead with the application and was in talks with other supermarket chains."
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/call-to-reject-supermarket-over-pollution-fears-1-3916316
Previously -
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But developer Realis will no longer submit proposals for a 21,000sq ft store after Waitrose pulled out.
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http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/waitrose-shelves-plans-for-corstorphine-store-1-3724749
Posted 9 years ago # -
It's not all enormous supermarkets opening in Corstorphine though.
The Wee Shop (not much bigger than a cupboard!) has been taken over by Stortebacker, who are regulars at Stockbridge Market. Additional cake opportunities for cyclists making their way along St John's Road.
https://m.facebook.com/Stortebacker
I will sample their wares and report back....
Posted 9 years ago # -
I can report that Stortebacker do excellent cakes, and bread, and things like that. We first met them at the short-lived Gorgie Farmers' Market and have followed them on Facebook, and purchased their wares in Stockbridge and Juniper Green, ever since.
Posted 9 years ago # -
@stickman @Fimm - ooh. That sounds exciting.
I've heard back from CEC that Station Rd / SJR is going to get cycle parking by summer 2016, so easy to pop in.
Posted 9 years ago #
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