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"cancelling out the horrible north east accent I should have got"
"My sister was old enough to have developed a lovely north-east accent before we moved south"
For a moment I though these were about different NE!
Multiple NEs are available.
There used to someone on here who was familiar with two of them.
Anybody who puts their school on their Book of Fa*ces profile is deffo insecure in their middle-class stratus... besides giving away the answer to one of the 2 common security questions that will help hackers take over their identity.
He reckons I'm a toff because I say 'window' and he says 'windae'.
Once upon a while when I worked in Glesca, there were a number of occasions when insinuations would be made in my direction about Edinburgh being "more of an English city" than Glesca, and being "posh", presumably due to hailing from Embra.
However I couldn't help noticing in some of the more rarified circles of Glaswegian life (and they certainly exist) rather a lot of "posh" or at least upper middle class folk, with accents that could have fitted in quite comfortably at an Oxbridge set party.
I can understand why many Glaswegians findf Edinburgh to be "posh", but the "English" bit, while actually reasonably accurate, seemed to also allude to poshness: a certain metropolitan scene trouping up north during Festivus, perhaps?
For a moment I though these were about different NE!
Yes, I was about to get offended then realised they couldn't possibly be talking about my NE.
The Hartlepool accent is NOT a nice accent.
It sounds like someone being petulant has been recorded and slowed down.
"Anybody who puts their school on their Book of Fa*ces profile is deffo insecure in their middle-class stratus."
Or they want to keep in touch with old friends?
I've never been asked once about my school at work and I can't see why it might matter (apart from potentially an advantage in exams to get onto a degree course way back). Other careers may have other drivers.
"For a moment I though these were about different NE!"
Sixteen miles apart. I was originally going to say something along the lines of "how DARE you offer such a BEASTLY description of the MARVELLOUS north-east accent" but then noticed it would be superfluous. Perhaps my sister's accent on the cassettes in my parents' loft had been influenced by my mum's Welsh accent, more pronounced back then than it is now.
Bearing in mind Hartlepool has a vastly different accent to middlesbrough and to sunderland and to durham which are all within 10-20 miles or so, it's unsurprising that people have different thouoghts about different accents - there are so many!
(I'm fairly good still at distinguishing them - used to use to go get tips out of clients on the pedicabs by "guessing" exactly where they were from!)
I would like it noted that I like the NE England accent by the way. I think it is cool. Just as well since I married a Durhamer. Never been to Hartlepool though.
I've never been asked once about my school at work and I can't see why it might matter
No-one can. Except for the askers I suppose.
Status anxiety is a pernicious thing. It works in all sorts of directions, and rarely leads to contentment. Best to not worry about it, whichever way it's going.
No-one can. Except for the askers I suppose.
If the askers are in a position to grant or influence the granting of promotions, privileges, bonuses, advancement etc. or even just security of employment then it matters very much I would say.
It's one way (amomg many) to see who will 'fit in' with a particular organisation's people, and who will not.
Further on the Glesca/Embra thing, you may have missed this:
"BBC Two's multi-award-winning Secret History of Our Streets told the story of six London streets, from Victorian times to the present day.
Now, as its people stand at a crossroads in their history, the series travels to Scotland to tell the stories of three archetypal streets in Scotland's three great cities: Edinburgh, Glasgow and Aberdeen.
Endlessly surprising and not at all what you would expect, the stories of these streets are the story of a nation."
The Edinburgh street?
"This is the story of Edinburgh's New Town and the Moray Estate - an area unlike anywhere else in Britain, with an architecture and a people seemingly unchanged over almost 200 years. "
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04bx5r1
(13 days left to watch)
The Glasgow street?
"Duke Street is Britain's longest street, running from Glasgow city centre through the heart of Glasgow's East End. Elegant Victorian tenement blocks line the road to the south of Duke Street. Yet just 40 years ago, those tenements were under threat. This is the story of how a group of pioneering residents took on the Glasgow Corporation in a battle to save their homes. "
Friday, 21:00, BBC Two
Both real streets, with real people of course. It has to be said that the choice of these particular areas reinforces, rather than challenges preconceptions and stereotypes about both cities.
Looking forward to Aberdeen!
On the street programme, the moray place set let the cameras into their homes and tell the director how much they paid for them, this is unheard of, he must be a charmer. It is also possible that the daughter of the 22nd earl of moray comes home with a school sweatshirt on (green with yellow stitching on the badge) that just might have been flora stevenson's. Unlikely I know. Still available on the iplayer and quite interesting.
The woman insisting on trying to move the red plastic recycling bin out of shot was good. Reminds me of the people up on St. Leonard's Crag who tried to conceal their on-street big bins with leaf stickers.
The director had a trick of keeping the camera running on the well heeled after they had said their bit which whilst not being as cruel as Louis Theroux did introduce a Kevin Phillips Bong (Slightly Silly Party) tone at times.
I happened on this programme by accident - I really enjoyed it, particularly the cavalcade of slightly fruity and/or nutty characters.
Aye, it was an interesting programme.
It is also possible that the daughter of the 22nd earl of moray comes home with a school sweatshirt on (green with yellow stitching on the badge) that just might have been flora stevenson's. Unlikely I know.
Definitely not Flora Stevenson. Maybe not an Edinburgh school at all. After all, the family have estates all over Scotland. Do they live in Edinburgh all the time? Probably not. I suspect, with its crown crest embroidered on the shirt, their daughter is attending some prep school elsewhere, possibly in Perthshire or thereabouts? Maybe not even in Scotland.
Green with a golden crown as (part of) the crest. Anyone have any ideas?
@crow, I was just going with floras as quite near moray place. I was also going with them being in moray place but in fact as they own the Monty python castle etc it might have been up in moray? The wee lass did look just like any other normal pupil, wee sweatshirt etc. No straw hat or pinafore etc.
Indeed, most confusing. I think they own Scone Palace too, and Dalgety Bay. See this obituary of pater familias .
Oh here is the family seat, Darnaway Castle, near Forres:
Yes been on The peerage. Doune castle now belongs to us but they still have darnaway. thank goodness
The current earl is a year younger than me. He is married to a very nice woman I am sure. She appears to be a commoner. Not sure of her wealth as her father was a professor.
They have two sons, so I must apologise to the lad for calling him a girl, but perhaps he could get a haircut?
I have found with these nice toffs that they say they live in a castle somewhere but really they have houses same as the rest of us, well bigger and worth more but still houses as castles tricky to run without servants, serfs etc.
I do not wish to generalise and clearly as a commoner I am unlikely ever to meet these people. They may well be very nice. They do have a cockamamie plan to build a Newtown near Inverness where the so called social housing is next to the bought houses. I am trying hard here to be fair but doubtless failing.
They did come across as mildly eccentric (I think the film makers helped to create this impression), yet here are the plans for their town, which seem pretty well developed: http://www.tornagrain-newtown.co.uk/
Looking on the map, the site is close to Inversneggy airport (and the business park the Earl is developing), the railway line (so scope for a station), and Culloden Moor and Cawdor Castle are within walking diustance.
Clearly they know what they are doing - the family have a long history of land onership, after all.
I've cycled some of the roads round there (on the Forres Foray audax) and it's nice and quiet just now. Won't be after Tornagrain is built, mind you.
My wife has an ancestor who was born along with a dozen or so others in a very wee house on the Darnaway estate - we found the ruins. It was so bad he emigrated.
I have lived here for 46 years and worked in financial services for 29 years.
In my entire life and at work nobody has asked me which school I attended. Given it was a rubbish comp, perhaps for the best!
I did see Magnatom being horribly abused on the Glasgow FGSS forum. Had I been a member, I would have left. So, if that makes this forum posh Embra, then that works for me.
"Definitely not Flora Stevenson. Maybe not an Edinburgh school at all. After all, the family have estates all over Scotland. Do they live in Edinburgh all the time? Probably not. I suspect, with its crown crest embroidered on the shirt, their daughter is attending some prep school elsewhere, possibly in Perthshire or thereabouts? Maybe not even in Scotland.Green with a golden crown as (part of) the crest. Anyone have any ideas?"
Regius School, maybe? Interesting choice if so.
Established prep schools likely wouldn't rock sweatshirts, I imagine.
@murun could be that sweatshirt but hard to say. However good to check out the Regius school which had two primary classes in total in the King Hall (elimPentecostal church)the last time I was in there in relation to my work. As it has moved now to newcraighall they have gone up to S3 with a home education connection from S3 onwards. Still a fee paying Christian school.
@sally check out the comments for whoso list to hunt in guardian online poem of the day as amended 31.05.13 for an unabashedly and unapologetically upper middle class long lunch break of this thing we call life.
It's interesting to see a discussion on the famously egalitarian (if a little middle class) CCE forum on the subject of which school someone is attending... :-p
Well it is very important you know. ;-)
This is reminding me of the bits in Game of Thrones where Bran or Pod are having their heraldic pennant-device/tagline knowledge checked by Luwin or Tyrion. Or the bits in Stephen Fry books where someone spots, recognises and assesses someone's old school tie/scarf in microseconds. Do fancy schools' pupils have special classes in recognition/rating of other schools' ties and scarves, in lieu of (in addition to, in extreme cases) having knowledge of crests and suchlike instilled in them to be able to recognise them on castle walls and across battlefields?
Well if 21st earl of moray does send his boy with long hair to state school that would be something. The plans for the new town outside Inverness are intended to be egalitarian
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