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  1. DaveC
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    Weekend Trip Planned.

    Train tomorrow night to Aviemore. Camp, then Fri cycle down B970 to Laggan and over the Corrieyairack Pass to Fort Augustus. Cycle down the Canal to Fort William and then pick up the West Highland Way and cycle south to Glasgow. Camp wild along the way. This is where is get hazy. Take a train some somewhere to Edinburgh ish and cycle home.

    I have walked the WHW years ago and will stow maps (just in case), take my GPS with OSM maps on and wing it from Laggan (OS 35 & 34 to most in my bags) to the Canal at Fort Augustus. I’m taking a few things to eat but will opt for the Audax staple if possible (24 hour supermarket). I'm thinking of panniers but may consider a rucksack if bike carrying looks probable?

    I’m billy no mates but hope open to other joining me if you have free time and a train ticket to Aviemore for tomorrow evening ;O)

    Dave C

    Posted 10 years ago #
  2. fimm
    Member

    I will be very, very impressed if you manage to cycle up the Corrieyairack Pass from the Aviemore side...
    Sounds like a good trip, have fun.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  3. ARobComp
    Member

    I'd be up for it normally but currently one CX bike is languishing with broken bits and the other new one has no bits. I'm doing some POP promo instead now. Enjoy though!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  4. DaveC
    Member

    I Have a CX bike spare.... but I figured I'd take the MTB.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  5. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Like @fimm, I will be mightily impressed if you can cycle the Corrieyairack Pass south to north with any kind of luggage. The top section is very steep and mostly washed away, though you can use the new Beauly-Denny pylon access road if you want to make things easy.

    Also, the summit of the pass is properly wild. Wrap up warm and enjoy the mad rush down the other side!

    There's a small but good bothy on the north side of the pass, the Lock Inn in Fort Augustus is the place for food - the other pubs/hotels are awful. There is no shop in Laggan.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  6. minus six
    Member

    I've been over the Corrieyairack Pass to Fort Augustus with full panniers front and back, no suspension.

    Its do-able, albeit a bit bumpy in places. It's the only time I've worn a helmet in the past decade, just in case.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  7. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @bax

    I take my polystyrene bicycle hat off to you if you cycled up the last kilometer. I was a bit nervous cycling down it.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  8. DaveC
    Member

    Well I'm taking my most unknown bike. I ride road bikes day in day out, but the MTB has been sat for most of its life in the garage. I take it out occasionally when riding locally with my children. The gears and brakes work bu after a trial last weekend I am changing the tyres for some with more tread. Other than than, a rack off my CX bike and its there! I have taken my 26" wheel off the Bent so it has dynamo lights.

    Picking the train tickets up tonight, and looking forward so a sun soaked weekend with now wind to speak of..... ;O)

    Posted 10 years ago #
  9. minus six
    Member

    I do remember it being quite tough going, but haven't done this since the last big washout, if that has changed things significantly?

    I did it on a Koga Miyata World Traveller, having started out at Dalnacardoch, then up over the Gaick Pass, over to Laggan etc and ended up taking to the high path on the North side of Loch Ness up to Inverness for train home.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  10. fimm
    Member

    I should state that I've only ever descended the steep side on foot a few years ago. My memory is of it being quite washed out. I'm not saying it is impossible to get a bike up there, just that I don't think I could ride one up it!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  11. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @bax

    Great route. I'm tempted by the Cairngorm circuit that includes the Gaick for next May...

    I never know how strong/fit people are on here. I guess a regular CX MTB rider can go up stuff that defeats a commuter like me.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  12. minus six
    Member

    Looking forward to an update on the conditions, DaveC !

    May the road rise with you

    Posted 10 years ago #
  13. DaveC
    Member

    "I guess a regular CX MTB rider can go up stuff that defeats a commuter like me. "

    My limited experience is the opposite, watching MTB riders push their bikes up hills I happily grind up for hours (as a fit commuter), but then I'm left behind gingerly descending as they happily hair off down some near cliff face!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  14. steveo
    Member

    Good strong mtb'ers can ride up inclines that you'd struggle on with a normal bike. The new 10 speed stuff has gears which bear more resemblance to a winch than a bicycle transmission.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  15. biketrain
    Member

    @DaveC

    Correct me if I am wrong but are youplannin to Cycle south down the West Highland Way?

    If so I will post my experiences of cycling it south from Fort William to Tyndrum.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  16. Nelly
    Member

    Dave, I will be around Fort William Thursday to Saturday (family gig, no bike) but pm me on here if you need any help when in that area?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  17. fimm
    Member

    @biketrain Dave says "pick up the West Highland Way and cycle south to Glasgow." so I think the answer to your question is yes.

    Which reminds me to add; watch out for the northern end of Loch Lomond but be encouraged that it gets easier after the Inversnaid hotel.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  18. biketrain
    Member

    A buddy and I cycled the Northern section West Highland way a few years back.
    With full sus xc mtbs (Orange sub 5s, I think) it took 12 hrs. to cycle and push from Glen Nevis to Tyndrum. I think this section is 72km and has about 1700 of ascent.
    The route from Glen Nevis to Kinlochleven was mostly ride-able, watch the steep descent into village my buddy managed to bend a chain ring on a rock.
    From Kinlochleven the old military road in very steep in places so we did a lot of pushing.
    Felt it was taking less energy to push than try to cycle and balance bike. Surface had a lot of lose stones to traction a challenge at times. Descent of Devil's staircase is fast if you can bunny hop the gaps in the path where in crosses the streams. Basically the path is made of specially laid stones, however every time you get to a stream there is a gap and drop to the stream bed. Easy enough for walkers to stride across but not ride-able. I had to get off and lift bike over every gap. The rest of the route is pretty much all ride-able except the bit between Inveroran Hotel and bridge of Orchy which may require a bit of pushing. Whatever happens, it will be an adventure. Food stops at Kinlochleven, Kings house on A82 Glencoe, Inveroran Hotel, Bridge of Orchy, Tyndrum.
    Not tried the whw section south of Tyndrum as I hear that some parts are not ride-able. I will be interested to hear how you get on.
    @DaveC Good luck.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  19. DaveC
    Member

    Cheers Biketrain. I plan to bug out at Crianlarich and hed east along the awefully fast road toward Killin, but picking up the disused railway line where I can and heading south to Calender. From there I will take back roads to Doune, Bridge of Allen and the Alloa cycle path to Dunfermline and home just beyond.

    I'd love to cycle the whole way off road but unfortunaley that isn't possible. I'll recaiord my ride on my GPS and post the Strava and somepictures if my phone battery holds out, when I get back.

    @Nelly, thanks for the offer. I imagine apart from hospitalisation, finger crossed, NOT.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  20. fimm
    Member

    Oh, make sure you stock up well in Tyndrum because .... edited on seeing Dave's post about leaving the Way at Crianlairich.

    Instead I'll add that the railway line cycle track down Glen Ogle is supposed to be good although I don't know what the surface is like. Shouldn't be a problem on a MTB anyway.

    I hope you have a great trip!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  21. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I plan to bug out at Crianlarich and hed east along the awefully fast road toward Killin, but picking up the disused railway line where I can and heading south to Calender. From there I will take back roads to Doune, Bridge of Allen and the Alloa cycle path to Dunfermline and home just beyond.

    You will enjoy the ride from Killin south for sure. It starts off a bit MTBish, muddy old railway and then forestry tracks. The Glen Ogle part is spectacular, then there's back roads around Balquidder village and then old railway again from Strathyre south to Calendar. There's a forestry commission section you will be fortunate to go down, where the path leaves the trackbed. I remember pushing the fully loaded tourer up it, my shoes sliding in the gravel of the path, cursing Sustrans all the way for claiming it to be a cycle route.

    You could always try heading east along the south shore of Loch Earn, for St Fillans, then to Comrie. There's various back roads and bits of path marked on Opencyclemap. From there you go to Crieff and in striking distance of home in Fife.

    I happily grind up for hours (as a fit commuter)

    Ahem. As a fit Audaxer! I've noted how many miles (sorry, kilometres) you've been doing this year!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  22. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    I think you are right to leave the WHW before the top end of Loch Lomond. That part would be awful on a bike as others have said - the path crosses lots of boulders and tree stumps. I'm very envious.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  23. paddyirish
    Member

    superb sounding route.

    Lade Inn at Kilmahog in Between Strathyre and Callander is a great stop - 100yds from the cycle path, bike friendly, great food and coffees with petits fours and 3 of its own beers, brewed on site. Next door is a bottle shop which claims it sells every beer brewed in Scotland.

    Not that I'd recommend cycling after drinking...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  24. DaveC
    Member

    Here is the route... ish.. 330km Aviemore over Corrieyairack Pass to Ft Augustus, down the Canal to Ft William and 1/2 West Highland Way to Crianlarich over to the Callender cycle path then Doune, Stirling, Alloa and Dunfermline.

    http://ridewithgps.com/routes/6280939

    Posted 10 years ago #
  25. Ed1
    Member

    Lade Inn at Kilmahog “and 3 of its own beers” Yes they have 3 beers, lade back, lade out, and lade up I think.

    I opted for lade back and lade out and very good it was too.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  26. DaveC
    Member

    Aviemore - Corrieyairack Pass - Ft Augustua - Fort William (& beyond)

    I rode this route on Friday 17th October. I stayed with a friend on Thursday night in Aviemore and set off just after 8am on Fri morning. I rode the easy route down the B970 to Kingussie. I'd stupidly forgotten my two bottles, leaving Aviemore, but speaking to two another riders I passed, I was directed to a small bike repair shop on Newtonmore, The Bike Shed. It has very few spares and I guess operates as a repair place essentially, I had the only two dusty bottle he had in the window! From Newtonmore I continues down the A86 to Laggan where the small road to the Corrieyairack Pass starts. Its nice smooth tarmac for ~10 miles until the road ends and the dirt track starts at Melgarve. The track is ~8ft wide for most of its course having been re-enforced by Balfour Beaty who are in the final stages of replacing the Electric Transmission Towers. They have a parrallel road (non tarmac) for much of General Wade's Road but its use is restricted (at least I didn't rry it, but saw contractor traffic on it). The route it quite good and rides from Melgarve (a couple half derelict buildings now) up to a mile before the zigzags where it befome a little narrower but still usable by a tracked vehicle (from what I saw of the track marks). The old and new transmission towers run side by side with the newer towers to the south. There are gullies which cross the track as it climbs (which further up have fence feet placed in to smooth them out a little) to direct water off the track. These are a large step down into the gullie where the rider rides out up a ramp. It takes it out of the bike, and my bagman holding my carradice Nelson broke half way up. From the zigzags (carrying my rucksac on my back with tent, sleeping bag, rollmat, warm clother & food etc..) I pushed the mtb up the switchback of which there are ~7. The track then straightens out and starts to level off and top out at around 708m, having climbed from Laggan at ~250m. The top is quite spoiled by the two lines of transmission towers and old concertite weather station, but the veiws from the top are worth it. The track starts to descend less steeply on the west side and strangly has the parrallel contractor's smoother wider track. As I was comming off the top I saw a Mitsibishi L200 climbing with child in the passenger seat (school holidays) gawping and pointing at me :O) The descent to Fort Augustus wasn't all down hill but mostly and my brakes (hydrolic) took a battering as I got used to the descending (I'm predominantly a road cyclist). There is loose stone and fine grit resurfacing the track up and down which is loose in places. Finally towards the lower climbs I came to civilasation at Fort Augustus, I found the canal steps and water at a local garage.

    From Fort Augustus I rode first along the canal path to Loch Oich where the tracks follows the south side next to an old disused railway line, grass and gravel, but is heavily rooted in places. Finally it goes onto the railway path where it meets Laggan Locks and then routes into the forrest tracks on the north side of Loch Lochy. Rising and falling a few times the track runs through the forrest where trees provide shelter from the wind up the Great Glen before the rider arrives at Clunes and tarmac. A couple of miles SW at Gairlochy I picked up the canal again for a further 6.5 miles to Neptunes Staircase. I then followed the cycle signs to Morrison's in Fort William a couple of miles on from the Staircase. There I sussed out train times and food from Morrison's. The train station has showers. I then decided to see how I felt at my planned campsite, on the West Highland Way ~10km south of Fort William. I over looked just how far, and steep this road was climbing and falling and climbing again to ~250m. The camping site (not actually a campsite) was quite sparse and I eventuaslly found grass I could pitch on behind the WHW sign on a small hill. By now the light had long gone, and the wind was begining to get up! Slight rain showers were also starting. I pitched the tent, ate and settled down for the night, and what a night! Heavy rain for much of it and battering winds had my Wild Country Zephros nearly flattened at times and I had to check the pegs and guys were secure a few times through the night, where the tent was near blown flat on to me! Knackered I guess I got to sleep (broken) around 10pm and woke and rose at 5am having pollished off the family triffle I had bought, for breakfast, from Morrison's the night before. With the skattered showers and wind/gails constant through the night, I didn't fancy a head wind to Kinlochleven. I has originally planned to ride the top 1/2 of the WHW and across to Callender from Crianlarich on Saturday and then home (Edinburgh) on Sunday. Having packed up, I descended, climbed and descended again back to Fort William where I arrived at 06:30 for the 07:40 train to Glasgow.

    The trip was fab, but longer than I had hoped on the first day. The train views despite rain and dark clouds to Glasgow were great, past Corrour and Rannoch. Having walked the WHW years ago I don't feel the need to try to ride it again but I may plan something for next summer. One lasting effect from my MTB's grips is the limited functionality of my left litle finger. I can grip and flex it but it would move side to side?? (think going from a fingers wide to making a chopping hand, but with the pinky hanging out on its own....)

    I'll try and upload pictures when I can.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  27. DaveC
    Member

    Here is thr ride on Strava.

    http://www.strava.com/activities/209199012

    Posted 10 years ago #
  28. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Nice work @DaveC!

    "I came to civilisation at Fort Augustus"

    You know you've been in the wilds when Fort Aggie looks civilised.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  29. DaveC
    Member

    Well it was sunny, with nice shops on the south east side of the locks and lots of people walking around.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  30. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @DaveC

    I'm fond of Fort Augustus. Only place I've ever been chased by, and outrun, the police. We were staying overnight at the Abbey School when I was seventeen and we slipped out for high-jincks. Presumably the cops thought we'd escaped the attentions of the priests and were trying to return us to their beds. We saw an actual ghost as we broke back into the dormitory. I realised last summer that I was camped on the hockey pitch I'd played on that time.

    Posted 10 years ago #

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