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"Cyclists’ joy at St James Quarter route plans"

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  1. kaputnik
    Moderator

    They could cover the current spiral concrete car park ramp at St. James Centre in orange tinfoil and get much the same effect, much cheaper.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  2. amir
    Member

    Those are definitely not locals in the artist's impression. Shame that more thought and imagination isn't put into transport.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  3. neddie
    Member

    The team demonstrated a thorough understanding and imagination...

    Except they were not able to imagine a single cyclist in the artist's impression. Not one.

    And they clearly do not have a thorough understanding of how people move about in a modern city centre.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  4. acsimpson
    Member

    Are the architects competing to see if they can get a building which looks more out of place than the current one?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  5. wingpig
    Member

    Perhaps it's a spite hotel; as the SJC is surprisingly prominent from distant locations, maybe the shape of the cladding has been carefully designed to create the maximum number of irritating/distracting sun-reflections.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  6. acsimpson
    Member

    At least they are mostly concurve so unlikely to melt passing cars.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Developers behind the “ribbon” hotel at the centre of the regeneration of the St James Centre have been dealt a blow after planning officials urged councillors to reject the scheme.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/call-to-scrap-st-james-ribbon-hotel-1-3850882

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Mr Perry said: “We believe that Jestico + Whiles’ elegant design fully responds to the original council brief to enhance the city’s skyline and create something never seen in Edinburgh before – unparalleled 360-degree views of the city.”

    Clearly never been up the Scott or Nelson Monuments.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. acsimpson
    Member

    IMHO compared to the cladding calamity allowing the peeled tangerine hotel would not be an issue.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. Min
    Member

    It does seem a little odd to me to spend bazillions knocking down one supposed eyesore only to replace it with another. But then TiE.

    Clearly never been up the Scott or Nelson Monuments.

    No, no-one has. That's why we need a(n apparently permanent) Ferris Wheel?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. wingpig
    Member

    "That's why we need a(n apparently permanent) Ferris Wheel? "

    That's also why we needed a restaurant table which was winched into the air by a crane for the fringe a couple of years ago, in case people became hungry whilst enjoying unparalleled 360° views.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. "That's also why we needed a restaurant table which was winched into the air by a crane for the fringe a couple of years ago, in case people became hungry whilst enjoying unparalleled 360° views."

    That was a fun looking gimmick, and a fair bit different to the ferris wheel (though it cost a bit, and read reviews that the food was 'okay', so decided against it).

    Asking tourists to climb Scott Monument (I've still not done that, and no idea why, I could even just pop along of a lunch hour) reminds me of a scene from In Bruges with a large American family....

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. acsimpson
    Member

    The idea of eating while dangling in the air sounded intriguing to me but as it was at the bottom of the gardens being raised 80 feet into the air barely put you higher than princes street so the views didn't seem worth the price. I guess a lot of people voted with their feet as I haven't seen it since.

    If you want to dine with unparalleled 360° views of the city a picnic on Arthur's Seat can't be beaten.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

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    If councillors reject the latest proposals, developer TH Real Estate will be forced to either appeal against the decision or go back to the drawing board entirely.

    Both options could mean costly delays. But if the plans are given the go-ahead, council chiefs will have gone against the advice of their own planning officials for the second time in ushering through one of the largest city centre developments for a 
generation.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/will-st-james-ribbon-hotel-plan-collapse-1-3855026

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. wingpig
    Member

    Can the rest of the revised Quarter start to be built whilst they're dithering about the peeled apple?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. Morningsider
    Member

    The whole St James development has outline planning permission. This means the developers already have permission to build an unpeeling orange shaped hotel here. This application is simply for the approval of the detailed design of this hotel.

    The developers have significantly enlarged the proposed hotel compared with that set out in the application for outline planning permission. Not an unusual tactic - simply trying to bounce the Council into approving a larger development now that plans are further along. The developer could withdraw the application today and work with city planners to come up with a design that would be acceptable. Why bother though? They simply hope to bully councillors into approving the larger hotel, with threats of delays and concerns about the viability of the development if they don't do so.

    The Craighouse decision is simply coming home to roost - it's open season on the city now. Plus, if this application fails, there is always an appeal to the super pro-development Scottish Government, who wouldn't want to turn down such an "iconic" development.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

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    The Ribbon hotel can get knotted

    The so-called “ribbon hotel” that is to be the centrepiece of the St James Quarter gets major criticism from me. It is not an original design, looks like a dun-coloured car park access route, and is nowhere near classy enough for Edinburgh.

    Give us something original and of the highest quality and the people will support it. Otherwise . . .

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/martin-hannan-send-ruth-homeward-tae-think-again-1-3855064

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

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    Planning officers originally recommended the plans be rejected - but councillors today gave them the green light.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/controversial-ribbon-hotel-approved-in-edinburgh-1-3856555

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

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    @adamrmcvey: The St James' Ribbon Hotel is approved 7votes-5. I voted for the striking new landmark for the city. http://t.co/O5qIgne2ED

    "

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. Fountainbridge
    Member

    It's to be known as "The Turd"

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. Morningsider
    Member

    Fountainbridge - I dunno, I prefer "The Shart" myself.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. The Boy
    Member

    Stories to appear the chip wrapper about Edinburgh's World Heritage Site status being revoked in 3..2..1..

    Though in fairness the orange turd is an absolute disaster zone of a building.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. kaputnik
    Moderator

    St. James's Technicolour Dreamjobby.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. ih
    Member

    I'd go for the Mr. Whippy. It has an element of ridicule, but a name you could use in polite company.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. wingpig
    Member

    Is there a technical or geometric name for the wee twirly metal shavings produced by lathing, drilling and tapping?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

  27. The Golden Swarf?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  28. kaputnik
    Moderator

    @Wingpig - swarf

    EDIT - dang, double-beaten...

    Swarful.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    Doesn't look good -

    "

    Due to its high surface area, swarf composed of some reactive metals can be highly flammable. Caution should be exercised to avoid ignition sources when handling or storing swarf in loose form, especially swarf of pure magnesium, magnesium alloy, pure titanium, titanium alloy, iron, and non-stainless steel.

    Swarf stored in piles or bins may also spontaneously combust, especially if the swarf is coated with cutting oil.[2]

    To extinguish swarf fires, a special fire extinguisher is needed, designed for fighting Class D (metal) fires.

    "

    Posted 8 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin


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