MSPs can't overturn a planning decision. Ministers can call-in a planning application for their own decision, up until the decision letter is issued by the Council. Even assuming the decision letter is still to be sent, Ministers will not call-in this application. Why bring responsibility for a controversial decision on yourself, when someone else has already taken an unpopular decision.
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"Cyclists’ joy at St James Quarter route plans"
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Unless the planning application has been made by Donald Trump.
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Hang on, that ribbon effect? Donald Trump's hair? Too much of a coincidence?
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Min - Scottish Ministers called in the Trump application after Aberdeenshire Council had made a decision, but before they had sent the decision letter. Technically legal, but a huge slap in the face for local democracy.
Trump could simply have appealed the decision to refuse permission to Scottish Ministers, who would have reversed it. However, submitting an appeal was below him and he threatened to pull the plug on the development. Ministers went into a panic and used this technicality to call-in the application before it was officially refused.
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Hmm, really it's win win for the property developers. Thank you for that explanation, the effect is the same but it is nice to know how it happened.
Hang on, that ribbon effect? Donald Trump's hair? Too much of a coincidence?
Bwahaha, I really wish you hadn't said that! Now I will be faced with Donald Trump's head every time I go past.
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Trump, as interpreted by Jon Rosenberg:
http://amultiverse.com/comic/2015/07/08/quantum-trump/Also a bit like the Spitting Image representation of Douglas Hurd's hair.
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@SarahBoyackMSP: Our skyline is key to Edinburgh's Outstanding Universal Value. Egg hotel must complement it http://t.co/iGcokHJmvt @EdinburghWH @thecockburn
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Lothians Labour member Sarah Boyack wants ministers to “call in” the decision amid concerns the landmark scheme could have a detrimental impact on the skyline.
But the Evening News can reveal attempts to get the government to intervene are set to prove fruitless.
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http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/call-to-send-ribbon-hotel-back-to-drawing-board-1-3866899
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I think this development is wrong on several levels, but I don't think SG should call it in. If the Council want to make this colossal mistake, then that is an aspect of local(ish) democracy, and they should live with the consequences.
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LEADING heritage group has written to the Scottish Government slamming the £850 million St James development set to transform the east end of the city centre.
The UK committee of the International Council on Monuments and Sites (Icomos), which advises Unesco, said the scheme would have “a highly negative impact” on Edinburgh’s World Heritage Site.
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http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/st-james-ribbon-hotel-would-hurt-unesco-status-1-3889040
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fast approaching judgement day for the Capital as Unesco advisors descend on Edinburgh tomorrow to examine the impact of recent planning decisions on the city’s World Heritage status.
Controversial proposals to transform Calton Hill’s old Royal High School into a luxury hotel and designs for the nearby St James development have been at the centre of a growing storm in recent months, amid claims they could threaten Edinburgh’s heritage standing.
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http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/heritage-fears-as-unesco-look-at-hotel-plans-1-3914407
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Petty, but I wish the EEN would use a proper style guide - ICOMOS and UNESCO aren't proper names, they're acronyms!
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Today three inspectors from the UK committee of the International Council on Monuments and Sites (Icomos), which advises Unesco, will embark on a two-day visit to the Capital to assess the impact of the developments, amid mounting fears the city’s heritage standing could be at risk.
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http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-fights-to-keep-heritage-status-1-3915406
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Don't how this relates to plans for a 'cycle route through site' -
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trio of new spaces – provisionally dubbed St James Square, Register Square and Cathedral Square, or Little King Street Square – could be used for “shows and displays” during the summer festivals and “carolling and other festive events” in the winter.
And a sweeping, glass-covered galleria will act as an “internal street space” between Multrees Walk and the current St James Centre’s Princes Street/Leith Street entrance – packed with restaurants, cafes and terraces over several levels.
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http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/john-lewis-scraps-st-james-objections-1-3947444
Interesting aerial view I haven't seen before.
Looks remarkably like Exchange District.
Not clear about cycle routing.
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Good image, that shows clearly that there won't be any cycle routes to, or through, the development. So the title of this thread is at the least ironic.
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"clearly that there won't be any cycle routes to, or through, the development"
That depends.
There must be pedestrian routes through.
I can imagine 'the route' being as, clear, welcoming and as capacious as that through The Exchange (esp the bridge over WAR).
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But, are we not getting some pavement "re-assigned" and turned into a segregated route on York Place?
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That's different (or is it!)
Doesn't meet my understanding of 'through the site'.
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Indeed not, more 'skirting the site'.
(P.S.:- my post was blocked on the "Typical bad advice needed" thread for too many linkies...)
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Developers behind an £850 million development on the site of the St James shopping centre in Edinburgh are trying to block plans for a new film studio on the outskirts of the capital - amid fears it is a front for a retail development.
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http://www.scotsman.com/news/st-james-developers-move-to-block-straiton-film-studio-1-3996981
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Possible resting places include further down Leith Walk, where it could provide the “missing link” for a planned cycle path and pedestrian walkway between Portobello and Leith.
Or perhaps it could replace proposals for a £1 million bridge across Dalry Road.
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I'm pretty sceptical this ever gets reused.
A very specific design with fairly specific support requirements.
Although - could it bridge one of the missing links on the Broomhouse-Gyle path?
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Agreed it's looks like it might be tough to repurpose a slanting bridge for a flat crossing. Is it even wide enough for a shared use path?
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At 50 or 52m it's probably easily long enough for the shortest two gaps in the Stenhouse path - the longest gap between appropriate-height bits on the embankments next to the existing tram-bridge abutments looks to be about 43m using Google Ruler. It could probably fit any of them given that there'd need to be some concreting and landscaping anyway to set up fastening-points and approach slopes. Which would be the most useful one to do first, usual-crossing-delay-wise?
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St James Centre redevelopment threatened by ownership dispute
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CITY leaders hope a negotiated settlement can be achieved to lift a legal threat to the massive St James redevelopment.
An investment company which owns the ground lease for the John Lewis store has gone to the Court of Session to challenge the decision of an inquiry to give the go-ahead for a compulsory puchase order to allow the £850 million project to proceed.
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Comment piece:
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The £850 million investment in the east end of the city centre will transform what the Capital has to offer as a shopping centre. The new street layout will open up the area like never before, so you can wander through parades of traffic-free shops, restaurants and cafes. Big-name brands that have never before opened outlets in Scotland are expressing an interest in being a part of it.
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