CityCyclingEdinburgh was launched on the 27th of October 2009 as "an experiment".
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Consultation has commenced for the possible new primary school in south Edinburgh. I'd suggest using the public meetings to raise the issue of support for active travel.
Info, dates and docs here:
http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/20103/classes_and_buildings/1335/south_edinburgh_primary_schools_consultation
We aren't imagining it. New statistics out today show 11.8% of journeys to work in Edinburgh were made by bike in 2014. The Scottish average is 2.6% and the next closest council area is Highland, at 6.8%.
Even more striking than the Edinburgh cycling figure is the driving one - significantly below other councils - even Glasgow which has a substantial suburban rail network.
So, more people in Edinburgh get to work on buses and bikes than by car.
Time for a significant change in CEC attitudes and reallocation of road space.
Total sample size only 4130 people?
Surprised that Aberdeen city has the highest proportion of people walking to work. Not too surprising that Edinburgh comes out well on bikes and buses.
"Total sample size only 4130 people"
Yes, but that's how official stats are done.
Perhaps more 'truthful' than stats that say 'we need more roads'.
Unfortunately, although a sample size of 4000 odd is pretty good for the whole of Scotland, it's going to be hard to get any decent data for individual local authorities - the sample size for Dumfries and Galloway is 90.
I was actually interviewed for the SHS a few years back now I come to think of it. I expect I rather skewed the data. I got some nice vouchers out of it though
I *did* think D&G looked pretty healthy, but as you don't commute for work, I doubt you could skew that.
I agree - my instinctive sense is that 4000 is plenty, but that breaking it down might be problematic, but presume they'd do more if so. Otherwise, what would be the point? Hopefully Insto will be along to put us right/reassure us.
D&G had no figures for cycling to work in that report, if I recall correctly (it's recorded some quite high ones in the past though).
Come to think of it, our participation in the Household Survey was the lifestyle one, which also includes a cycling question under exercise taken.
I need to work on my table-reading!
Interesting reading, the rest of us (outside the Burg) have a long way to go.
Edinburgh doesn't fare so well for kids cycling to school, East Lothian, Highland, and Perth / Kinross, South Ayrshire all do better. Surprising?
"Surprising?"
Sadly no, though as relatively few do anywhere, details have to be regarded with caution due to sample size(?)
I've not checked systematically but the cycling to schools data seems to match with the 'hands up' data? Certainly for East Lothian?
"Unfortunately, although a sample size of 4000 odd is pretty good for the whole of Scotland, it's going to be hard to get any decent data for individual local authorities - the sample size for Dumfries and Galloway is 90."
Definitely agree with that - figures for the individual councils should be treated with great caution if not ignored completely
amir - I agree that the local authority figures should be treated with caution. However, they will be used by the Scottish Government in making claims about cycling and are certainly worth keeping an eye on.
Fife has gone down from 1.9% for the previous 2 years to 1.3% this year.
Edinburgh up from 6.6% last year.
Data for all years here:
(data for all years here: http://www.transportscotland.gov.uk/statistics/scottish-household-survey-local-area-analysis)
"Edinburgh up from 6.6% last year."
Doubling isn't really credible, but the 'over 10%' is a very useful figure - until next year??
"Fife has gone down from 1.9% for the previous 2 years to 1.3% this year."
There's not enough info to make any conclusions about such differences given the sample size etc.
"There's not enough info to make any conclusions about such differences given the sample size etc."
Indeed, but the figures do show that next to nobody cycled to work in Fife and 2012, and that it's still the case today that next to nobody cycles to work.
Indeed, I think that D&G council are planning on using SHS data to measure their progress on their bicycle strategy. So even if they do nothing, they've got a good chance that the survey will show a massive relative increase in cycling just because the surveyors happened upon a cyclist or two among their 90...
I'm not sure how they processed the results but at a glance 1.3% of the Fifers appears to mean 2.47 fifers cycling to work.
Is it based on a tick all that apply question which they then average out? If so there's probably more than 1.3% cycling at least occasionally.
"Indeed, I think that D&G council are planning on using SHS data to measure their progress on their bicycle strategy. So even if they do nothing, they've got a good chance that the survey will show a massive relative increase in cycling just because the surveyors happened upon a cyclist or two among their 90..."
And Midlothian apparently had no cyclists ....
Standard errors are a fine thing
EIGHT or NINE cyclists ahead of the aggressive LRT #33 heading west past the RSA on Princes Street this morning. I initially though there were only seven or eight but then one more (who must have been between the tramlines) popped into view.
Our office's cycle storage was probably the busiest I've ever seen it today and even all the Sheffield stands that we have out in the normal car park space had at least one bike on them. (Just popped down for a quick count! Sad, I know...) A total of 34 bikes across an area that would struggle to fit three cars, while there are spaces for nearly 30 cars and only 16 present. I honestly haven't ever seen someone rolling in there carrying more than one person.
Unsurprisingly, my complaints to colleagues and random strangers in the stairwell are usually met with "I had to drop the kids off at school", or "I'm commuting from Burntisland and can only carry all my steak bakes and bridies if I take the car".
when I got in yesterday at 11, there were no free racks anywhere near my work. and that's before term starts!
GDM - think we may work in the same place?? Sounds a familiar situation!
Away this week, but last Wednesday when I went to collect my bike the stands were overflowing. Space on the Sheffield stands for 16 bikes, I counted 34 there. Standard sign stuck to a bike - "Bike user - do not lock your bike to the pipes" as there are water downpipes in the corner. Some sort of constructive solution would be helpful if the bike storage is over 200% capacity!
However there's already "not enough car parking"...
@newtoit - sounds like you've maybe got more Sheffield stands? I'm on Causewayside but we do have a similar sounding 'last-chicken-in-the-shop' option of the drain pipe which is juuuuust far enough from the wall to get the chain round.
I've bemoaned before about the mad email scramble that happens whenever a spare parking place is offered up. I recently spoke to a colleague who had worked here for a year who didn't even know there was bicycle parking and a shower available... I've managed to get HR to ensure that they tell everyone new who starts but in general there's still the unabated lust for a parking spot.
Fools!
@chdot - HR don't like me since they realised that I was entering the request bonanza for the spare parking spots just to use one up without bringing a car in.
Ho ho
Well if you get one you can fill it with lots of bikes!
I find it hard to believe any sensible company would allocate parking spaces.
First-come first-serve always works best with company parking IMHO. Encourages car baseddependent employees to come in early (and avoid the congestion). Prevents bun fights. Maintains equality.
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