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"Vision" for 2030!!!

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  1. Instography
    Member

    The active travel network.

    "Main roads into town centres all have either segregated cycling provision or high quality direct, safe and pleasant alternatives. Pedestrian and cycle paths are in place. Rural and suburban minor roads have low speed limits, linking nearby communities and services so opening up new travel opportunities and choices."

    Posted 10 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    I forgot to post this the other day. Unfortunately the job description is no longer available.

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    @PathsforAll: Last day to apply for our Smarter Choices Smarter Places role! http://t.co/UGdtYvKqDb Promoting #ActiveTravel behaviour change

    "

    Posted 10 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    ""Main roads into town centres all have either segregated cycling provision"

    Plenty room in many places -

    Posted 10 years ago #
  4. Instography
    Member

    That's not segregated.

    Anyway, what it does accept the principle of segregation (or high quality direct, safe and pleasant alternatives).

    On all of the principles, this is a complete capitulation.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  5. Instography
    Member

    "All schools have safe routes for pupils who are confident to walk or cycle to them along with 20 mph or lower speed limits."

    ALL of them.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  6. Instography
    Member

    "Crossings prioritise people and give confidence to users, for example short wait times, no staggered crossings, sufficient time to cross and far-side visual cues for people with auditory loss and auditory cues for people with visual impairment."

    Talk about promising the earth.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  7. Instography
    Member

    "Roads maintenance programmes are prioritised to facilitate active travel."

    Posted 10 years ago #
  8. Instography
    Member

    "Scotland’s urban areas all meet air quality targets."

    Posted 10 years ago #
  9. Instography
    Member

    "Walking and cycling are the first and natural choice for shorter, everyday journeys and so are the social norm."

    Posted 10 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    "That's not segregated."

    I know. Just pointing out there's plenty of room.

    The pic with the stupid narrow cycle lane has rather a lot of wasted space in the middle of the road!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  11. chdot
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    Posted 10 years ago #
  12. crowriver
    Member

    "Talk about promising the earth."

    Aye, but then all Mackay needs to do to disown the whole thing and bring in (even more) motorist friendly policies is to say "a lot of people felt it went too far and was over restrictive". And that's it, game over, as you were, nothing to see here, move along now there's a good cycle campaigner. Oh did we mention cyclists are not normal and a bit weird?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  13. Instography
    Member

    Of course, it could go nowhere but it would be hard for them to disown it so soon after publishing it. Anyway, I've dropped my MSP a (rather long) line pointing out some practical ways that the Scottish Government could start to make good on its vision, in her consituency by creating decent paths along the A985, looking at school travel and routes for commuters to train stations. I've asked her to take these up with the new minister. If she can't kick a ball at an open goal then she deserves to be replaced.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  14. PS
    Member

    This can't be a bad thing. The more civil servants write publications like this, and the more ministers sign them off, the more they will accept that this active travel is something that should be considered when developing the transport network. Ideas that may have been dismissed with a "haha, good luck with that" will not be rejected so easily or so quickly. Officials are saying that the minister is interested in promoting cycling and walking, and their job is to exercise the minister's will.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  15. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @PS

    You're right, but I still despair a bit. Can't help thinking that the civil servants who agonised over the document would have been better deployed with angle grinders to remove chicanes from paths around the country. Or just sent out to cycle on the A84 or through the center of Glasgow. If they came back they'd be weaponised.

    I'm just not aware of any instance where a photograph of a politician with children has led to anything good.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  16. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Anybody mind if I shamelessly plagiarise this thread for the basis of an article for The Nation?

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/24/national-newspaper-scotland-success-pro-independence

    It'd be a good test of how pro-SNP they are.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  17. PS
    Member

    @IWRATS Oh, I'd much rather they came out with a something that said "I, Keith, have seen the light and have taken steps to delay a few minor trunk road improvements in order to release £200m to provide segregation for all", but it's baby steps with these guys. They still seem to be unsure, despite the groundswell of support for social justice and the commonweal, that voters want to see things happen that improve accessibility, health and quality of life in their towns and cities...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  18. SRD
    Moderator

    @iwrats -- you just beat me to it! hope they publish it.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  19. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @SRD

    Les grands esprits se rencontrent....

    They're only publishing this week as a pilot, but I'll knock something up in case it carries on. Happy to collaborate.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

    "They're only publishing this week as a pilot"

    Said they'll keep going if sales are adequate.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  21. SRD
    Moderator

    give it a try - today's issue suggests to me that they could use some more material

    Posted 10 years ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

    "

    ann (@liz6153)
    24/11/2014 13:11
    @NeilMackay @ScotIndyDebate @ScotNational According to @brawday Sainsbury's and Tesco's are refusing to sell it.

    "

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    Anna Haven (@AnnARHaveN)
    24/11/2014 12:52
    @ScotNational @NeilMackay large Tesco didn't stock today, getting in from tomorrow due to requests. Got last one at garage, excellent read.

    "

    Posted 10 years ago #
  23. SRD
    Moderator

    ScotNational: @SRDorman @NeilMackay richard.walker@sundayherald.com to send any articles to

    Posted 10 years ago #
  24. LaidBack
    Member

    give it a try - today's issue suggests to me that they could use some more material

    Including ads - where are Scotland's entrepreneurs? Surely not scared of getting noticed!
    I've asked for a ratecard - although not an entrepreneur. Only email I have is letters one though. Whatever political viewpoint you come from you can't miss a selling opportunity and they could do with some pictures of interesting bikes. In fact maybe they should pay us.... I see they have a big photo-space in centre of the paper ;-)

    I have been told that he Daly Mail is an excellent medium to advertise our wares but fortunately the ratecard will keep us out.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  25. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Any body got a reference to the original commitment for cycling levels from the Scotch Government? I've found the 10% vision;

    http://www.scotland.gov.uk/resource/doc/316212/0100657.pdf

    but if memory serves there was a commitment/vow of some level that went before wasn't there?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    Not quite the 'proof' you want (interesting 'promises' about Glasgow too!)

    "

    Cycling Action Plan for Scotland - “By 2020, 10% of all journeys taken in Scotland will be by bike.”

    "

    http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=3521

    Posted 10 years ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

    Wonder if Nicola Sturgeon has read this -

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    but are we on track to achieving this vision?

    the simple answer is no.

    currently, only 1% of all trips in scotland are made by bike and 23% are made on foot. the car is by far the most dominant mode of transport (64% of all trips), despite the fact that majority of people in scotland either do not drive or have access to a car, and half of all journeys undertaken in scotland are less than 2 miles long.

    scotland’s current transport funding decisions (which largely prioritise major schemes and subsidies) and delivery mechanisms are failing many scottish people, by not delivering the wider benefits they could be.

    this document shows what is achievable through some inspiring case study examples, which demonstrate that it is possible to achieve substantial increases in active travel in an affordable and politically acceptable way. active travel needs to be given greater priority through the reallocation of current investment decisions, greater commitment to existing policies and, above all, leadership to make it happen.

    we are making the case for a significant change in the priority given to both walking and cycling in scotland – and we set out what needs to be done now to enable a dramatic, but cost-effective shift to be achieved.

    "

    http://www.pathsforall.org.uk/component/option,com_docman/Itemid,69/gid,784/task,doc_download

    (Why does copying this doc strip out the Caps?? )

    Posted 10 years ago #
  28. Morningsider
    Member

    I think it has always been referred to as a "vision" in Scottish Government documents. Various Ministers and Cabinet Secretaries have called it a "target" when speaking in Parliament.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

  30. LaidBack
    Member

    As an aside...

    I note today's National paper now has the Shetland Islands on the masthead graphic. I spotted they were absent yesterday.
    Still no showbiz news though!

    Posted 10 years ago #

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