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The ongoing battle with studded tyres

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  1. HankChief
    Member

    This is the story that keeps on giving, so I thought it deserves it's own thread.

    From Severe Weather thread

    Yesterday morning

    I spent a very frustrating and fiddly 3 hours last night putting my marathon winters on. In the process I stapped a tyre lever, pinch flatted the rear & made a right mess in the kitchen. I'm convinced that the smaller wheels are harder to get on & off.

    Glad that persevered, given the ice this morning, although very annoyingly had another puncture at Murrayfield this morning (pinch flat I assume).

    And then yesterday evening

    Ding ding round 2 of Hankchief vs studded tyres.

    So having the shame of pedestrianising to work having left the bike where the tyre went kaput, I got home, got the roof rack out of the garage, put it on the car, drove to Murrayfield to pick up the bike, returned home, took off the roof rack and went into battle again with the studded tyres.

    I got the defunked tube out easily and saw that some of the wire beading was exposed and sticking into the tyre, so I chopped the wire off and put a piece of polystyrene onto the end and put in a new tube. I don't know how, but the tyre went back on very easily ( maybe linked to the exposed beading). So far so good.

    Pumped it up and stood back to admire my handiwork... BANG goes the inner tube. Arghhh. So out with another tube and repeat the process - Fortunately I still had the knack and it went on painlessly.

    I'm guessing that the bike had learned its lesson. If it doesn't work it gets left behind on a cold and damp street corner - if it behaves I will leave it in a nice dry & warm(ish) garage or basement.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  2. Darkerside
    Member

    My boxing knowledge is very limited, but would a shout of "HankChief in the bluuuueeeeee corneeeerrrrrr!" add atmosphere?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  3. HankChief
    Member

    So to check that all was well with my tyres having sorted them last night, I did a 7mile ride on them. No issues - all looking good.

    This morning I loaded up the kids and set off to school as usual. First descent and at 20mph BANG - rear wheel blow out. Thankfully I kept it upright.

    Cue phoning the Cavelry to get the kids to school and then starting the half mile walk back home. The tandem had to be carried which isn't light and I played leapfrog with the tagalong which could at least be rolled.

    Looks like I damaged the beading getting the tyre on on Sunday night and that has been popping the tyres. It might also explain why it was so easy to get them on last night. So I will be ordering another tyre and going into battle again.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  4. HankChief
    Member

    Darker side - thanks for the added suspense...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  5. Darkerside
    Member

    I think not dropping the kids at 20mph wins you that round, despite a strong claim from Studly.

    So we can get appropriate pre-match enthusiasm going for round four, can you confirm whether you'll be paying for next-day delivery?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  6. dougal
    Member

    Needs more trash talk.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  7. kaputnik
    Moderator

    So that clears up the mystery of the Circe and tagalong neatly parked between a lamp post and fence at Roseburn yesterday morning!

    Posted 9 years ago #
  8. HankChief
    Member

    Kappers - indeed I'm glad you thought it was neatly parked.

    Darkerside - the blow out was very scary. I heard the BANG and felt the handling go and put on the anchors but it was (obviously) just the front that did anything so the tail & tagalong were swinging around and ended up sideways. It was a great relief to turn round and see the kids still aboard. Definitely not one to repeat.

    Don"t worry you won't have to wait long for the next thrilling installment. I have paid for next day delivery.

    My order includes a new tyre, more inner tubes & some more plastic tyre levers. Wish me luck.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  9. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I put my first studded tyre on last night when I got home. I'd gone through town rather than canal and through Morningside and oddly it was quicker...very oddly.

    Anyway, @Greenroofer's half-used Marathon double studder went on. They are too small, so you have to use tyre levers which in turn risks pinch p*nctures, defeating the object of fl*t-resistant tyres. Things was, once I'd done (15 minutes end to end...) I noticed that my knee was bleeding. Inspection revealed a missing chunk of IWRATS. No idea what happened. Did an ice-spike take its revenge?

    Anyway, this morning instead of freezing sheet ice a warm roaring headwind, so I sweated my face off on the 60psi super grippy towpath.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  10. SRD
    Moderator

    @iwarts @hankchief you guys are inspiring me to have a shot at installing my spikes while watching @davec's show tonight. if i don't manage it, can i bring it to the pub?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  11. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @SRD

    You can, but it would be a brave bicyclist tried to fit them in public after a pint.

    Alas I won't be there to hinder you, but I'm sure a team of leading beard-scratchers will self-assemble despite this.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  12. steveo
    Member

    I like that.

    An assemblage of beard scratchers: Men who gather round to watch another man doing something fairly technical offering advice but never getting their hands dirty.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  13. Mandopicker101
    Member

    @Steveo - would the collective noun then be 'a scratch of beards'? Or perhaps 'a stroke' of beards?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  14. Mandopicker101
    Member

    One week after ordering, my Schwalbe Winters are still in the tender care of Planet X's infernal mail system as I opted for 'Click and Collect' from the Edinburgh store. My estimation of Yodel is not high from past efforts so this seemed a good idea.

    Or not...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  15. paddyirish
    Member

    I put mine on last night and got to test it in ice at home -got very cold around 10pm and then warmed up through the night. Feet slipped everywhere and bike didn't and the rice krispie effect was great...

    It was relatively pain free- did it slow and deliberately and I was congratulating myself on a job well done and closed the garage door which nudged the wheelie bin (which I must have nudged while doing the change). Now the garage door won't shut and we've a reapir bill on our hands.

    The studded tyres got me too, by stealth...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  16. Ed1
    Member

    I have not bought my winter tires yet, but after being so icy yesterday, I could barely walk let alone cycle on some of the paths, I have been looking to get some winter studded tires.

    Do these work when very icy like yesterday?

    After much googling I see I can get marathon winters 200 stud tires from Acycle in France online for £ 66 in size 700, 40 or 700C.

    I see that the 100 stud winters are much cheaper is it worth paying the extra for the 200 stud tires?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  17. SRD
    Moderator

    lidl does grippy things you put over your shoes to walk on ice with. very handy when you get off your bike.

    previous winters studded bike was far better than trying to walk anywhere.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  18. paddyirish
    Member

    @ed1.

    I'd go for these in 700c...

    Mine arrived next day...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  19. Greenroofer
    Member

    @Ed1. I was using the 100-stud tyres yesterday. I passed Pauline (regular towpath pedestrian) last night and she complained about the trouble she was having with walking on the towpath. I was having no trouble at all riding it, although I was taking easy, particularly on the corners.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  20. chrisfl
    Member

    Right, I must buy some studded tires. Although the last few years I've just stuck to the roads when it's been icy on the paths.

    I bought myself a Kool-Stop Tire Bead Jack, earlier in the year and it makes changing tight tires much much easier.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  21. SRD
    Moderator

    reviews of that look very good...any chance you want to bring it to the pub tonight?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  22. mogwai1375
    Member

    This may be a very silly question, but can those studded tyres fit onto a road bike wheel? I usually have 23c ones (I think?)...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    Yes/no.

    Depends on 'space' - particularly under fork crown, rather than what is on it now.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  24. kaputnik
    Moderator

    @Mogwai1375 - not likely - the narrowest available last year was the Marathon Winter 30c, which with the studs added is pretty near the dimensions of a 32c (perhaps not so wide). You might get them on at a push but I wouldn't trust them to be so secure on a narrow rim. You might also struggle not to have the tyre rubbing against the stays at the bottom bracket and more worryingly the studs may even scrape the seat tube or bottom bracket.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  25. mogwai1375
    Member

    Ah, I see. Thank you. Guess I'll just have to stick to the roads (which is a shame, because the canal is much flatter if I'm going south...).

    Posted 9 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    Who needs studs...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

    This is a good guide for what tyre and rim widths 'work'.

    But there are people (some on here) who have managed to get fat tyres to go on thin rims without (apparent) problems.

    http://sheldonbrown.com/rim-sizing.html

    Posted 9 years ago #
  28. mogwai1375
    Member

    That's really useful!

    Posted 9 years ago #
  29. Ed1
    Member

    I have Alex Rims. Alex G6000 deep-section 32H.

    My bike currently has 38C tyres on it. I wonder do I get 35 or 40, 700 winter tyres?

    I have a pinical lithium 1 hybrid. Which is a mountain bike frame with 700 wheels.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  30. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I wonder do I get 35 or 40, 700 winter tyres?

    If you can fit the bigger ones under the mudguards, go for them. Bigger = better as there's more rubber in contact with the ground and you can run at a lower pressure for grip/traction.

    Posted 9 years ago #

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