CityCyclingEdinburgh was launched on the 27th of October 2009 as "an experiment".
IT’S TRUE!
CCE is 15years old!
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New Town Theatre: "We have had the needs of cyclists in mind since our plans were first developed."
This is so clearly a lie. They never gave cyclists' rights one second of thought. If they did, where are those plans explaining how cyclists needs will be met?
"This is so clearly a lie."
Perhaps.
Though I'm inclined to believe the line that CEC rejected some suggestions.
Certainly seems to be that CEC is putting all responsibility on them.
Need to see contract and any 'understandings'...
OK, if "CEC rejected some suggestions" I wonder if an FOI could be phrased in such a way as to find out what suggestions were put forward, and how CEC responded to them?
Worth a try.
Previous post -
http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14657&page=4#post-194913
FOI submitted to Council. We'll see what comes out.
Noticed when linked to the Livy road rage that eEN had story on le monde owner selling his business. It is next door to Hard Rock Cafe I think? Anyway someone down that end parked every day on the cycle route. Might raise at the consultation on 13th August. I could make a night of it and attend the Stella creasy campaign fight back club happening somewhere in Edinburgh that evening.
Whilst I see the merit of FOIs someone should do an FOI asking how much council time is spent dealing with FOIs. This one is fine but sometimes journalists just go fishing and fire in loads of them.
Just went through and as far as I can tell, the westbound carriageway is closed anyway now, so there's no real reason bikes couldn't just be directed through there. Apart from the massive cable ramps which are as awful as everyone says and caught one of my pedals too.
Of course, it's all a bit academic as the whole lane is full of pedestrians from start to finish anyway. And fair enough - at this time of year it's especially obvious that this is the only "pedestrianisation" scheme I've known which hasn't actually involved giving pedestrians any useful new space.
Anyway someone down that end parked every day on the cycle route.
I think you probably mean the Chrysler people carrier, registration is WHY103 or something like that, the night club under the Dome is called Why Not.
I assumed the two were linkes.
Could be, was another similar one drove straight at me when I was heading east on the bike lane and they were leaving that particular world of bars towards Hanover St when they should not have been there.
The set up by the bar is even worse when the westbound carriageway is closed - it is completely unclear which way you're supposed to go when heading west. I almost ran headlong into a cyclist on my way back (me: heading east, him: west) because we were both using the contraflow 'path.'
If I can figure out how to embed videos I'll try to put one up.
"If I can figure out how to embed videos I'll try to put one up."
If YouTube or Vimeo just put in the URL
Thanks for the tip, hopefully this link works.
Or with full URL
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Stunningly ridiculous design/implementation.
Well there still aren't any signs in advance.
This morning westbound there aren't even signs at the blockage saying to use the road, and eastbound no advance signs, the Cyclists Dismount is still there, and the 'Cyclists' with an arrow underneath diverting to the contraflow was behind a moved 'Road Closed' sign, then at the end of the contraflow there was a 'Speed Bumps' sign for the westbound traffic blocking all but about 8 inches of the exit from the contraflow.
You'd think this was a major operation that needed the combined skillz of MacGyver, the A Team and an entire series of Scrapheap Challenge to solve.
should we try to treat is an absurdist installation and all turn up wearing big beards or black capes.
presumably critical mass will be checking it out?
It might well be some sort of elaborate fringe act, true. Can I wear a top hat?
I was treating it as littering when I reported it to the council.
There's easily an extra two metres available on the south side of the compound which would seem to be being used for little other than the storage of those metal cask things, which can presumably easily be stored elsewhere.
Went along westbound tonight, not too bad. Couple of cars on it that should not have been. Cyclist went through red but only to hold on to pole then when green go down Hanover St.
Obviously I just stayed on the road at the pop up pub. I can see going east trickier there.
Also was on a short stretch of the meadows to innocent infrastructure. Very nice. Noticed when on road on way back there was an old personage treating it as pavement.
I know this might sound odd but Edinburgh has some really good infrastructure.. Used towpath and WoL path today. Maybe I am just lucky in my routes or have learnt my way around?
"Maybe I am just lucky in my routes or have learnt my way around?"
Both
This morning I will then take a very short cycle path (some episcopalians park on it on Sunday's but mostly ok) for fifty yards then hit the start of the WoL path and trundle down to footbridge over the Lanark road where the yacht used to be then take towpath to rubber company. Does get a bit ropier after that to the novice but is Ok if used to it. So I am lucky.
Back on topic, there are plans of the temporary layout available from the Cooncil, if you ask!
Different from this one?
Problem isn't plan (as such), it's implementation.
"Maybe I am just lucky in my routes or have learnt my way around?"
Both
"So I am lucky"
And that's part of the issue, people shouldn't have to be 'lucky'.
I'm lucky too, as if I want I can ride up to the Meadows, along NMW, use the new connector, and take the Innocent Path, then just back roads to get to my house.
This morning to chuck in a hill that's different from the Innocent I cut off at Duddingston Road West, through to Peffermill. Anyone riding from there is decidedly 'un'lucky. No cycle lanes running up to Cameron Toll (despite being a really wide road with hatch markings in the middle), then the choice of Old Dalkeith Road with parked in cycle lanes and loads of cars, or shuffle up to South Clerk Street (fun in itself shifting across three lanes uphill after the shopping centre roundabout), to trundle uphill with a lovely bus lane, but also lots of buses, and no additional width to play with to get round them.
I've done the route a lot, but for some reason this morning it struck me just how abysmal the provision is there. There are routes to ameliorate the situation, but they involve big detours, and while it's entirely impractical to expect cycle provision on every single road, there are some big main road gaps there. Between Peffermill and South Clerk Street I had three ASLs I think, and that was it. No lanes, nothing. There are bike crossings on the roundabout, but completely impractical from that direction (and not one at the first entrance because it would be impossible to fit in with the railway line).
"really wide road with hatch markings in the middle"
Part of the *old* idea of 'wide road, so cars go fast, so better keep them apart'.
See also Braid Hills Road (and plenty of other places).
'No room for segregated cycle paths'...
"There are bike crossings on the roundabout, but completely impractical from that direction..."
I often look at them as I go past, wondering when I'll get round to trying them out to see what they're for. Best guess is that if you're leaving Cameron Toll car park by the exit at the south of the roundabout and heading up Dalkeith Road you could sort of use it to avoid the roundabout, but you'd still have to cross it, then you're back on the road after fifty metres.
At Cameron Toll (railway) roundabout, you can use the 'odd' cycle loop in a crafty way if coming from the ERI, as the timing of the traffic lights can let you scoot through (keep your wits about you, head swivels like a 'hoolit), and you are through in a jiff using the best of all the infrastructure!
Agree with WC and WP that generally that whole area suffers from a dearth of 'cycle investment', and any decent commute in to Town from Sheriffhall/Gilmerton is more a dream than a reality!
Oops, sorry went off topic there... link to 'plan' broken on Chrome, but will try to view on different browser...
I used to use it going from Lady Road to Old Dalkeith Road but it only works if the lights are red when you reach them, otherwise you are faced with having to go into the right hand lane and then stop almost dead to make a right angle onto the path. Quality.
Who at the council do I vent my thermonuclear RAGE at for the state of the diversion along a narrow path with fencing, too narrow for two bikes to pass, over two massive electrical conduit speedhumps, collisions with drunk pedestrians imminant and best of all it spits you out onto a lane of traffic coming the other way and no signs suggeting you cut through parked cars (which will end up getting damaged) to the right side of the road again? Last year they did a better job of diverting cyclists but ultimately it's making George Street a no go for me again.
"Who at the council do I vent my thermonuclear RAGE at"
Wide choice.
Not that anyone is listening...
Optimum is probably Lesley Hinds.
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