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Post Powderhall (coming soon??)

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  • Started 9 years ago by Klaxon
  • Latest reply from Morningsider

  1. chdot
    Admin

    "Or were you not counting Shawfair since there is some sort of path there?"

    Don't actually know if there will be access to this site from south when finished.

    I was not counting Musselburgh because I was just thinking of the two it's half way between.

    Musselburgh (about 0.6 miles away) even has a fairly direct path.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

  3. crowriver
    Member

    Calling cyclists who live along the route or nearby.

    I'm planning a site visit by bike tomorrow, 12th November. 12 noon, starting at Abbey Lane, the Network Rail entrance. if you would like to come along, feel free to bring a camera/phone, and something to take notes if required.

    https://goo.gl/maps/oYwZ3mxNE2P2

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I might manage that Crowriver. Are you planning to walk it or bike it? Oh. You already answered that.
    I may bring a passenger then.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. earthowned
    Member

    Interesting - depending on child wrangling commitments I'll try to swing by.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. crowriver
    Member

    Likely to be chilly, folks. Wrap up as we may be standing around in the cold quite a bit...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. crowriver
    Member

    Looking quite mild, and the sun's out. Great day for a site visit by bike!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. robyvecchio
    Member

    doh, missed it :(

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. crowriver
    Member

    Just back after a two hour pootle around various points on the line. We didn't quite manage to see all the potential accesses, so I expect another (shorter) visit sometime soon. Fuller report in due course, possibly at the next meeting of the working group, in ten days' time...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

  11. Klaxon
    Member

    Gosh!

    Hadn't even noticed the lack of trains, I'm so used to sleeping through them now

    Posted 7 years ago #
  12. crowriver
    Member

    Well, there's the motivation we need to start making noises about converting the railway line to a path...

    :-)

    Posted 7 years ago #
  13. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Explains how quiet and unfragrant the place has been when I've passed in the last few weeks.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  14. Klaxon
    Member

    Spew in the EEN comments about incompetent maintenance planning

    Same people would be complaining if it was 'sensationally revealed' vast sums were to be spent refurbishing a plant due to close for good in 24 months

    Really can't win as a Cllr in these situations

    Posted 7 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    Presume 'working group' is having a holiday rest.

    Would be good to know how things are going.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  16. Klaxon
    Member

    Previously wasn't known if or when PH was to fully close so a bit hard to nail down goals.

    Focus now needed

    Posted 7 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    "incompetent maintenance planning"

    Planning for maintenance and planning what to do if things finally get worn out (I'm guessing) aren't really the same thing.

    I would be slightly surprised if SEPA concerns were entirely new.

    CEC has been trying to shut the place for many years and, I seem to remember, had signed a deal for refuse sorting in some shed in Porty (a then the locals found out...)

    "Same people would be complaining if it was 'sensationally revealed' vast sums were to be spent refurbishing a plant due to close for good in 24 months."

    Quite.

    Just a shame that ENews thinks it's readers' comments section has any value.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    "Focus now needed"

    Has anyone found out if CEC had/has any plans?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  19. crowriver
    Member

    "Presume 'working group' is having a holiday rest."

    Provisionaly we will reconvene in the new year.

    "Has anyone found out if CEC had/has any plans?"

    Depends who you talk to! There appear to be plans, at least going by the interactive map of the Edinburgh City Local Plan. The railway is marked as "Transport Safeguard: cycle/footpath and possible public transport service" - but only as far as the eastern tip of Lochend Butterfly / Urbane Den, after which it looks as if it's marked as "Railway Safeguard" with a "Station Safeguard" on the site of Meadowbank station.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Spokes CycleCampaign (@SpokesLothian) 29/12/2016, 18:55 If U agree re #Powderhall railpath, SAY SO! Here->

    https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/cf/new-meadowbank/ @EdinburghSSC @EdinburghWatch @CyclingEdin @edfoc @CyclingSurgeon

    https://mobile.twitter.com/streetwurrier/status/814210557138104321

    "

    Posted 7 years ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Spokes CycleCampaign (@SpokesLothian)
    06/02/2017, 20:59
    Future of #Powderhall #Piershill #Meadowbank railway, from @theSpurtle. @Marion_Donals1 @lewisritchieSNP @nickcgardner
    @BailieBlacklock http://pic.twitter.com/DzDXPNLJWy

    "

    https://twitter.com/spokeslothian/status/828709738632343552

    Posted 7 years ago #
  22. crowriver
    Member

    On the front page no less! Well done Tim! (Not of this parish, but definitely associated with the Powderhall working group and a very active Spokes member).

    http://www.broughtonspurtle.org.uk/sites/broughtonspurtle.org.uk/files/backissues/Spurtle%20259%20Final.pdf

    Posted 7 years ago #
  23. neddie
    Member

    I do like the Spurtle's "Time to Slow Down" article:

    For those wishing to add excitement to an otherwise dull taxi ride, we once again recommend enthusing to the driver about what an improvement the new speed limits represent.

    Good tip!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

    Anyone know of any developments?

    Presumably the 'working group' knows which wards the route goes through and is getting ready to contact the new councillors.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  25. Klaxon
    Member

    Local candidates in my ward all keen.

    Will see if that enthusiasm remains next month

    Posted 7 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    "Local candidates in my ward all keen"

    GREAT!

    Know anything about any NR/CEC/Sustrans plans?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  27. crowriver
    Member

    "Know anything about any NR/CEC/Sustrans plans?"

    Only what we've found out so far, above in thread. Tim Smith did write to Lesley Hinds, and got a response from the relevant council officer. Basically, the line's reserved for a cycle/shared use path, but converting it doesn't appear to be a high priority.

    So what efforts we have made since that response have been about trying to push Powderhall line further up the council's agenda. As for Sustrans, status unknown at present (to our wee grouping).

    I would imagine we need to wait until after the council receives its costings/report on the "future" of Powderhall waste treatment plant, currently out of action due to kaput crane.

    In the meantime, no harm in pushing the agenda at local CC meetings, NP meetings, consultations, councillor contacts, etc.

    If anyone has any other ideas feel free to post.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  28. chdot
    Admin

    Mini website with 'options'

    I could be interested.

    Map with potential access points would be useful.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  29. crowriver
    Member

    @chdot, yes all sounds good.

    Kaputnik of this parish already produced an underground style map/schematic of the path with potential access points. I also modified an official council map to send to people. This shows where the line is in relation to neighbourhood streets and main thoroughfares. We have a whole bunch of resources, just mostly not publicly available at the moment.

    I haven;t a huge amount of time to spend on this just now, but should have some time later next month...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  30. crowriver
    Member

    Oh, reviewed the thread above, and seems I forgot to mention that Network Rail / Rail Delivery Group have provisional plans (post-2019) to build a rail loop going from Waverley Station east end, via Abbeyhill, behind Meadowbank retail park and stadium, to join up with ECML. Additional capacity for Waverley, etc. Presumably local/regional services (including Borders rail) may be diverted here to allow intercity and through services priority.

    This may/may not happen of course, but means that realistically / for the foreseeable, only the section of line from Powderhall to Bothwell Street / Lochend Park is up for grabs as a shared use path. Potentially a wee spur south as far as Norton Park, but no further. Still a potentially very useful off-road route though.

    Posted 7 years ago #

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