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  1. chdot
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    "

    LOTHIAN REGIONAL COUNCIL HIGHWAYS

    Director P J Mason
    19 Market Street
    Edinburgh EH1 1BL
    Telephone 031-229 9292
    Telex 727586

    NETWORK OF PEDAL CYCLE ROUTES
    CYCLEWAYS/FOOTPATHS USING DISUSED RAILWAYS

    It is the policy of the Regional Council to allow greater freedom of movement pedestrians or and cyclists_ and to encourage more people to walk and cycle for work and leisure journeys (Structure Plan - paragraphs 76 and 13l4(a)).

    The disused North Leith railway line, which is currently being purchased, and the other lines already owned by the Regional Council would provide suitable safe routes for cycleways/footpaths. A network of cycle routes could be formed by use of these tracks. some less heavily trafficked streets and other existing paths. Continuous routes would be created, thereby providing access to the Central Area of Edinburgh and serving other localities. A possible network is shown on the plan in the exhibition.

    Use of these routes by cyclists would enable them to avoid many of the busier, more congested streets, and roads used by faster traffic. They would help to reduce the number of accidents involving cyclists, and 'to encourage more people to use cycles.

    Where appropriate, Traffic Regulation Orders would be sought to regulate the use of the cycleways/footpaths and exclude motor cyclists.

    It ls envisaged that the network could gradually be extended so that, where possible routes would be available for cyclists connecting the inner suburbs with the countryside surrounding the urban area.

    Comments and suggestions about the suitability of the possible routes will be welcomed, and the completion of the questionnaire would be of assistance.

    All communIcations to be addressed to the Director

    "

    Must be mid-1980s

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. cb
    Member

    "It ls envisaged that the network could gradually be extended"

    Different definitions of "gradually" are available.

    "A possible network is shown on the plan in the exhibition."

    That would be interesting to see.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. AKen
    Member

    Me and a friend used to play on the old railway line round about Coltbridge viaduct. This would be mid-to-late 70s. Track was gone by then but the ballast was still down. It was very overgrown and blocked off at various points.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    "That would be interesting to see."

    Indeed! Suspect it will be a mix of what has been done some wishlist stuff still not done (+ things actually done but on the "plan".)

    "Different definitions of "gradually" are available."

    Main problem is that this was a Lothian Regional Council plan. LRC delivered much of the 'railway paths' infrastructure and was able (and willing) to take more of a region-wide approach. CEC is generally reluctant to plan cross-border routes.

    If LRC still existed - or at least if there was a 'proper' regional transport authority - there might have been better cycle provision with the Dalkeith Bypass and the Borders Railway.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    I knew someone who worked on one of the Edinburgh Community Programme projects surveying the old rail-lines in an attempt to create a cycle-path network. That was in the early to mid-eighties.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. crowriver
    Member

    I suspect LRC's sudden conversion to the cause of cycling paths in the early 1980s might have had something to do with Spokes. See here their first ever newsletter from 1977, targeting the LRC elections no less!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. slowcoach
    Member

    And Spokes leaflet 12 and
    leaflet 20 might cover what CH (1st post) and cyclingmollie above refer to.

    There was some change in policy in the early 80s but the work to implement it didn't really get underway until after 1986 change of administration.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    Not all (potential) railway routes were saved/created -

    (From SPOKESWORKER SPECIAL Sept '84)

    "

    Since writing the lead article for the new leaflet, there have been a few new developments.

    Gavin Strang MP was contacted by a SPCKES member, and has sent a very positive reply - see opposite.

    It is very important for members to write to their own MP and ask them to raise the matter with the minister (he is Michael Ancram, also MP for Edinburgh South); if enough pressure is brought to bear, this is a decision which can be reversed - the cost of what we propose is low, and it would in no way interfere with the route of the bypass.

    We have also had an explanation from the Scottish Office that once all the new roads in the area are complete (1990, they think), the amount of traffic on the A6094 at Whitecraig is expected to fall from its present 4020 vehicles per day to 3060. This is why they argue that the A6094 can form part of a cyclists route between Musselburgh and Dalkeith. Their answer would be more convincing if they offered to use the extra road space to provide a cycle lane linking the Smeaton Line to Cowpats (oops OCR error!) Road!

    SEE YOU ON THE SMEATON RIDE, 16th SEPTEMBER

    HOUSE OF COMMONS
    LONDON SWIA OAA
    16 August, 1984

    Thank you for your letter advising me of the Scottish Office plan with regard to the disused rail route between Cowpits Road and Carberry.
    Your letter arrived when I was on holiday but I have now written to Michael Ancrram MP the Minister with responsibility for these matters.

    I fully agree with your views on this and strongly support the provision of a comprehensive network of routes throughout Lothian for cyclists and pedestrians. On transport and health accounts cycling should be encouraged. I very much hope that we can save this route. I will write to you again when I receive a reply.

    Yours sincerely

    GAVIN STRANG

    "

    (GS in middle of photo)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    OMG my pal from uni is in that photo chdot!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. crowriver
    Member

    The chap 4th/5th from the left appears to be a youthful looking Jeremy Corbyn.

    ;-)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. DdF
    Member

    "Save the Smeaton Line" - an early Spokes campaign failure; but was fun and worth the effort in helping raise the general profile of disused rail line potential locally.

    Incidentally, the reason for my expanded chest area in the photo is a baby carrier (with baby) inside my jacket. The baby is now 30, which rather dates the picture!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. DdF
    Member

    PS - the blame for the destruction of the route lay largely with the then government rather than the council, as it related to a trunk road development.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. Arellcat
    Moderator

    (GS in middle of photo)

    Whose is the Mk1/2 Moulton hiding in the background?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    This is where the bridge was. It crossed between the two clumps of trees. The NCN path is joined on the left up a short steep path to the old railway which runs through to Dalkeith.

    Whitecraig from the east by Tom Orr, on Flickr

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. kaputnik
    Moderator

    The route latterly served the Dalkeith colliery and preparation plant near Smeaton Junction (not therefore in Dalkeith), which closed in 1978. At Smeaton Junction, the line originally forked, with a through route to Dalkeith at Hardengreen, but that was cut back quite early to the eastern outskirts of Dalkeith. There are some good pictures of the junction in operation at Railscot; https://www.railscot.co.uk/locationnew.php?photographer=&loc=Macmerry%20Branch%20%28North%20British%20Railway%29&offset=1.

    The other tail of the fork was the Ormiston and Macmerry branch, as the name suggests this ran to Ormiston (you can cycle it this far) and then onto the terminus at Macmerry. Coal and to a lesser extent agricultural produce was the main purpose of the line.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    That explains all the post-industrial mess alongside the path towards Dalkeith. It's a shame the bridge wasn't kept as it would have been a pleasant ride over the fields to the top of the North Esk path and then down into Musselburgh. As it is you have to ride through Whitecraig and down Cowpits Road to make that connection.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. kaputnik
    Moderator

    The traveller campsite is where the colliery offices, baths and canteen were. The little roundabout was a sort of ornamental turning circle out the front.

    One of the most interesting and unusual features of the colliery was an aerial ropeway (like the one at the end of Get Carter) that carried the waste from the washery across the fields to the site of the first colliery at Smeaton Shaw. This is where the bing is. The bing from the more modern colliery buried the old Smeaton Shaw pit village underneath it, which had been long ago condemned as unfit for habitation. The tenants were unceremoniously turfed out, their belongings confiscated for fumigation, their persons deloused and then rehoused in Whitecraigs.

    You can see the old pit village on this map;
    http://maps.nls.uk/view/82878051

    When they were landscaping the bing into a bund for the recycling plant that now sits within it, I found the uncovered base of one of the ropeway pylons;
    Ropeway Relic by andy a, on Flickr

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    That perhaps explains why Whitecraigs people seem so grumpy.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Temple qualified as a landscape architect in the 1980s and set about creating the cycleways of Edinburgh on the disused railway network, which have transformed the way people move around the city.

    He said: "The radical thing that's happened in Edinburgh as far as I am concerned is the development of the long distance paths and the path systems across the city.

    "

    http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/ian-helped-shape-city-as-we-know-it-1-1252962

    Posted 7 years ago #
  21. ih
    Member

    We have quite a bit to thank Mr Temple for; the cycle/path network and other walkways, but... what happened to the pigeons at the top of Leith Walk?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  22. crowriver
    Member

    Now that IS a long story.

    I do recall them with fondness, though I suspect they will never be reinstated due to presenting a trip hazard for the visually impaired, or some such. That's not why they were removed though...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  23. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I thought they were due to go back in about 2 years time?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  24. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Site of House o' Hill (Halt). BR loco No. 57654 on a coal train from Davidson's Mains, date unknown. ( W S Sellar). by Kenneth G Williamson, on Flickr

    This is now the Silverknowes / D-Mains branch of the NEPN, this is the bridge carrying House O Hill Road over the trackbed, now a footpath only. It is the last bridge you pass under heading out of town before the path turns off to the right at Silverknowes Road East.

    Photo taken pre-1960 when the branch closed (it had been open as far as Davidsons Mains only for freight since 1951)

    Posted 7 years ago #
  25. gembo
    Member

    Wonder when the houses we t in? Crammond still a weekend resort for mr lowther at the time this photo take?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  26. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Wester Drylaw was laid out in the late 1950s. The flats faintly visible on the right-hand edge of the photo K linked to are actually just off Ferry Road, near Silverknowes Neuk.

    I thought it would be fun to try to recreate the view:

    Steaming down the cycle path

    Posted 7 years ago #
  27. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Really well done Arellcat. I'm absolutely inspired to try this out for myself with some other photos. Pinkhill here we come!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  28. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    That is excellent.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  29. neddie
    Member

    Thanks Arellcat. That's cheered me up no end on a gloomy Monday morning :)

    Posted 7 years ago #
  30. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I know there's another "auld photies" thread of the cycle paths before they were cycle paths somewhere on here, but I can't la my hand to it right now. Anyway, I came across a few shots I wanted to share from Flickr.

    A railtour on the Innocent just before closure; https://flic.kr/p/NgsXU1 https://flic.kr/p/Nc3Mmz and https://flic.kr/p/N9mhZC

    And here's a changed scene!

    1999-13-17 by Michael Laing, on Flickr

    (clue, the bridge is now filled in and there's a slalom ramp up an embankment to road level)

    It's worth noting that the trackbed in the above photo was about 30 feet lower than the ground level in the photo, and the railway had to pass under the road and another railway crossing perpendicular over it.

    Posted 7 years ago #

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