If you have recurring knee pain, and if you can afford it, I will always suggest seeing a good sports physio.
Colleagues swear by FASIC.
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The Reluctant Runners Thread
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@SRD if yoga is not your thing, pilates is good for the core too, but without the woo - I also found it really good mentally as having to concentrate on isolating individual muscles etc. is great for clearing the mind of absolutely everything else.
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FASIC is the dog's nuts. That is all.
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@sallyhinch exercising in groups is not my thing...
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Ah November* what a wonderful time to get back to running. The last of life is draining out of the trees, the sky is slate grey and the rain comes out of nowhere... Joy.
Even better, you can do it in the dark. I've taken to running in the evenings at this time of year, initially because it takes less time than cycling to get the same amount of fitness benefit. Now my brain seems to think that running at night is fun. Get a headtorch and find a park that lots of other exercisers use.
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I run to and from work once a week (normally) so that'll be in the dark soon enough, forgot about the additional joy of running on the NEPN in the dark.
Though I get the chance to use my little flashy armband is a bonus.
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Also, running in the dark makes me feel like I'm going faster. Strava confirms otherwise.
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we managed our 5k. now i just need to keep active and not relapse like i normally do when it gets icy and dark.
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I was a very reluctant runner on Saturday morning as I was utterly exhausted and had been suffering from stomach pains all day Friday, so I turned the alarm off and didn't get up at 7am and go out for my 3-mile run.
Then yesterday I discovered that my great-grandad was a member of the Gala Harriers around 1908. He must be spinning in his grave at my feebly-slow 3 milers. The genes stopped with my Dad, who was once a regular runner (until the doc told him to stop as he was wrecking his knees) and thought nothing of running home from Orchard Brae to Dalkeith after work.
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So talk to me about plantar fasciitis. I've not been running that much and not over 5k but went for 25k mtb ride yesterday which did involve a bit of walking, pushing up to bonaly reservoir and then Phantoms was a trifle damp.
Had pretty bad pain in my heel yesterday and some googling suggests its either PF or Lupus, and its never lupus.
Not sure what's caused it, my current theories are the spd shoes are done and combined with the pushing have injured me, my knackered trainers have done for me and the bike ride just tipped it over the edge, or my cleats position which is fine on my road bike is not ideal on my (new) mtb.
So how long will this hurt for and anything I can do for it?
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googling suggests its either PF or Lupus
This is why medical googling is often a bad plan...
However: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/plantar-fasciitis/ is trustworthy.
Ice it, put your feet up, stretch gently, don't go running, and - surprising to me - avoid ibuprofen for the first 24 hours. And if it's still sore in two weeks see the GP.
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This is why medical googling is often a bad plan...
Sorry that was a joke. ;)
Rest of the advice looks good though.
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A good way to ice and stretch it is to get a cylindrical bottle (500ml coke bottle is the right size), fill it with water, then freeze it. Then roll it under your foot to massage the sole.
New trainers would be a good idea in the longer term, too...
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There are many running issues that end up in lower leg and foot problems, mainly because that's where the weaknesses further up come to roost.. PF is fairly easy to self diagnosis - if you get excruciating pain in the sole of your foot first time you put pressure on it when getting up in the morning then that's it.
It's the non standard running problem, firstly because in the early stages you can run it off. If it goes after the first 5 minutes or so and you run conservatively then that can beneficial. Secondly because even if you do get rid of it, it comes back.
Remember what is happening. The membrane connecting your heel to your toes is over stretched. It is an over use issue. Icing, elevation, and foot massage will alleviate today's problem, as might an easy level 5k, but have a think about what may be causing the issue in the first place. Over tight calf muscles are the first call - being a cyclist does not help - and the second is working on core. Which is the answer to all running problems. Specialist insoles may help but the jury is out.
PF is a horrible - I've known those who needed tendon surgery to solve it - it's not a reason to give up, it will pass, but keep doing strengthening to prevent recurrence.
Best of luck.
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and its never lupus
Sounds like you've got the full House.
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Top tip that fimm thanks.
New trainers would be a good idea in the longer term, too...
The irony is my running trainers are in great condition, I've not used them enough. My trickle down system means that my retired trainers become my casual ones but it's been so long since I've retired a pair my casual ones are so done they've been hurting my feet!
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@remberbuck I suspect most of my problems are related to my calfs, I really do need to do more stretches. Not going to be trying to run it off anytime soon I know that.
@snowy :)
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I had some PF issues about 18 months ago now which I put down to, in part, spending the summer wearing a pair of cheap canvas shoes with no support. So you might want to get a decent pair of casual shoes.
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Thinking of retiring a pair of my mid mileage glycerins so I've got pretty supportive casual shoes for the moment.
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For the average parkrunner, motivated less by speed than reducing the risk of early death, £250 for a pair of trainers is a lot of money – even if you shave a minute off your personal best.
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Four weeks of much reduced cycling has led to desperate measures - I had intended to cycle down the hill to a quieter road and go for a run this morning. The bike had other ideas and developed a puncture (it is a jealous god, and clearly I shall have no other god than it) on the way down. Walked back the mile or so home and then spent 20 minutes running up and down what is effectively the neighbour's drive. A work in progress.
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I was finding myself reluctant to run and wondered why. Achilles tendon certainly sore - this is what will prevent me running eventually if the virus doesn't get me first. Considered my shoes - they are beaten to death. Soles solid and uppers torn. I always leave that too late out of loyalty.
So I have taken the risk of buying the same size and brand off the internet.
I have also returned to a trick from my racing days - running with a petanque ball in each hand in order to get some arm toning out of the run.
@sallyhinch
Are you not tempted by the forest trails up the road? Map suggests they don't connect well right enough but could be amusing?
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"So I have taken the risk of buying the same size and brand off the internet."
This certainly works for walking/scuttling shoes, except when Merrell change their recipe. My current running shoes are a wide-fit custom selection from the Nike shop as it was the only way to get a set of running shoes in a very wide fit which weren't sparkling white, as I learnt after a patronised and dispiriting afternoon visiting every running shoe shop in the city one afternoon. Hopefully the same recipe will still be available when they need to be replaced, though intermittent and light use means they're almost ten years old and still springy.
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Running up to the forest involves going through our neighbours' yard and they have four very noisy geese, so I decided that would be antisocial of a morning. We walk through there regularly in the afternoons although they were interrupted for a few days when someone's extremely feral bulls took up residence there ... it's all go out here in the country
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@sallyhinch
Thirty to fifty feral bulls? What to do?
@wingpig
Keen to see you in sneakers whiter than Kim Kardashian's teeth.
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A coward you are iwrats, an expert on bulls you are not.
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Oh yeah?
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0 row(s) returned in 0.67 secondsSELECT USER_ID, COUNT(BULL_FACTS) AS BULL_RANKING
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GEMBO 139
STEVEO 56
SALLYHINCH 34
IWARTS 2Fair play. Point taken.
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